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HI All,
Thought I'd give another update to let you know how well/bad things are going.

So we had a bit of a falling out with our trainer who we were struggling with from a personable point of view (quite rude, judgemental and condescending) but it came to a head when she made my wife walk out of a session in tears. Needless to say, not using her anymore.

So that happened, but we wanted help training etc still, so yesterday we took Ziva to her first communal puppy class. Now something to mention that those not in the UK might not realise. Yesterday we went from British Summer Time (BST/GMT+1) back to GMT due to daylight savings [ time] (DST).

This meant Ziva effectively woke us up an hour earlier, because the clocks did their thing. SO we kept her up and to her routine as per the new time. This resulted in a pretty tired puppy anyways.

Those following Ziva will know we are really fighting travel sickness. The good news is, the classes are further than anything she has ever been to before (by 0.5miles) and she was not sick in either direction - woohoo!

Then the class happened, which she was good as gold, and given we had some help it all felt pretty basic (its a 6 week course) but I am sure this will change. The person giving the class was very open and said the class is more for us humans than the dogs, so we can learn how to train the puppy at home. Totally get that, and happy with it.

We covered really basic shizz from sitting (in front, to the side and behind), down, stand, turn left and turn right.

This meant we got home (again no vomit) with basically a paper weight. We had previously only given a small dinner mid afternoon to give her some food as we were out over dinner time, and to give it time not to come up again. When home, she was so sleepy, she ignored her dinner (she had a fair few treats at class tbf) and all but just slept whilst we had ours, eventually she let us guide her into her crate and that was it for the day.

All in all, possibly the first day where we felt things really click, though we do need to still get some semblance of life back into our lives (like going out for dinner etc - but shes only 4m so still pretty young). Now we just need to get the training solid (which will hopefully tire her too) and continue being the star of the class!! :)

Thanks again for everyones continued support!
 

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very nice progress. often the class even if it feels a bit basic provides a lot of benefit over 1 on 1 sessions due to the fact that there are other dogs and people there, meaning the puppy needs to learn to work under distraction. that will help later on when working on other skills, like walking thru crowd, coming back when called even while visiting other dogs etc.
 

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very nice progress. often the class even if it feels a bit basic provides a lot of benefit over 1 on 1 sessions due to the fact that there are other dogs and people there, meaning the puppy needs to learn to work under distraction. that will help later on when working on other skills, like walking thru crowd, coming back when called even while visiting other dogs etc.
We gathered that. Though as the oldest there she was pretty good, though we were the only ones with a puppy sat in our laps at any point, Velcro Vizsla living up to their name! It's a 6 week course, and some of the stuff covered we haven't touched yet, others, she got in the bag, so think it's worth while none the less.

This particular trainer has like an academy, so finish this course and there one immediately after for more advanced, and so on for 3 or 4 courses. She also teaches Mantrailing which I am very interested in getting Ziva to do too in due course.
 

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Good on you, and your wife for finding a better fit for Ziva.
...and for us, we learnt more, and were praised more, yesterday alone than with the other trainer combined.

Was quite stark really. Now we just need to start thriving rather than surviving (but we aren't drowning anymore!)
 

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I have found snarky, over powering trainers, aren’t a good fit for us, or the dogs.
Trainers that praise us, also teach us to praise our dogs. We are calmer and have more fun, and the pup at the other end of the leash feels the same way.
 

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You were spot on dumping the first trainer. That was BS what was done to your wife. Completely unacceptable!!
A “classroom” environment is very good for socializing puppies. They learn to get along, and focus, with distractions that can't be simulated. In the US Vets are seeing what is described as “ Covid Dogs”, dogs that were not properly socialized due to the Covid protocols that were in place. Dogs need to learn to speak dog.
Have fun, go slow, and pursue the Man Trailing. It sounds like fun. A Vizsla trained to do a job, is a happier, mentally healthier dog.
 
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