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We have a terrible, heartbreaking situation in Upstate New York. The Otsego County SPCA is overwhelmed with the number of dogs they are going to have to take in and they have asked for help.

From the ridgeback list, requests from the NY shelter handling the dogs.
Please be very careful what is said in public, it could undermine their case
with the courts. They
> would like for everyone to remove any Facebook postings that include
> the name of the kennel and the proprietor, until after they have
> possession of all the dogs.So if anyone has made any public postings,? please
delete any
> previous postings that included the kennel or man's name (until after
> the dogs are all safe).By the way, if anyone is wondering, Liz called me
(original poster, not me)
> because she is trying to un-do the incorrect information that was
> disseminated on the internet, and specifically on Facebook, and she
> would really prefer that the kennel/man's name is not disseminated on
> public forums for now. ?When I asked how we can best help her help the
> dogs, she said they will need monetary donations to help with vet bills,
> boarding fees, and ongoing care.?
[I'll keep people posted as to how you can help if vizsla rescue needs help. Hopefully there are not many vizslas here. Do NOT call NY vizsla rescue or the shelters up there. They are busy enough without answering hundreds of phone calls. NY vizsla rescue will let us know what they need if they need help. [/color]
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VCGNY,VCNNJ,VCLI,VCCNE and New Hope all know about this. As regional coordinator, I am waiting for further word before gathering the troops!

Stephanie Fischer


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RBD,

please keep us in the loop up here. I am from Upstate NY originally and my parents still live there. If there is anything I can do to help, I'd like to know what.

Heartbreaking.
 

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I HATE hearing stories like this... especially ones that involve precious Vs. :mad: I hope this man is prevented from ever owning animals again.

We are in the CA Bay Area, but if they need a place for a V we can foster.
 

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Wow this frank guy sounds just so horrible. It's really sad that a lot of people are not aware of the importance of finding a reputable breeder and make this type of a puppy mill businessman thrive until now. If anyone who does a little bit of research I'm sure they will come across numerous websites about how to find a good breeder and what to watch out for.. This guy breeds 3 different breeds at this mysterious location where no pics can be found and doesn't show any info on the parent dogs. It's sad such a thing existed but at least he is busted and dogs can have a chance to live in a loving home as somebody's companion.
 

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I follow New Hope Vizsla rescue on facebook and it looks like this is the puppy mill they were just posting about! I have an application in to the rescue foundation and would love to foster/forever home a pup. This really just breaks my heart.

Redbirddog, please let me know if you hear anything concrete!
 

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Posted this evening at Yahoo Vizsla Talk list serve from Stephanie Fischer:

Just a quick update for everyone. I am still waiting for a call back from
the head of the shelter. I am sure she is inundated with phone calls. I
understand they have taken quite a few dogs and have gotten them vetted.
They are now being kenneled at the spca or a kennel they work with. I have
no number yet on Vizslas. I was concerned about temperament. The assistant
said even hungry, the V's were quite loving.

Please lets not inundate the shelter with phone calls. I will do my best
to keep everyone in the loop. Unfortunately, we have to sit back and
wait...patiently.


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Oh please let us know......we'd be happy to take one.......my heart breaks for those poor dogs. We are only in Michigan and could drive there.
 

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Update and fact corrections:[/color]

Good morning,

I just got off the phone with Liz Mackey, the head of the SPCA in
Cooperstown. Here are the facts:

NONE of the dogs were left outside chained to barrels. They were all
housed in kennels. This was a rumor that needs to be stopped.

There are 85 dogs of 4 different breeds in total. About 48 of them are
vizslas. They have 26 dogs in their possession already. All will need vet
care. The state troopers, SPCA and the vets will continue to go out to the
site and gather the dogs within the parameters of the law.

The dogs will be housed until all the necessary legal work is done, then
Liz will be in contact with me to start the placement process. We are
hoping that Frank will not get his dogs back.

Please do not call the shelter. She and her staff must attend to the dogs
already there.

We will be setting up a fund for monetary donations. Please keep an eye
out for that email.

This email will also be going to all the clubs in the northeast, as well as
V-talk and facebook pages. Please lets stop all the rumors and wait for
the facts!

Thank you,
Stephanie Fischer
Northeast Regional Rescue Coordinator VCA
President & Rescue Chair
Vizsla Club of Long Island
_www.vcli.net_ (http://www.vcli.net/)
 

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I hope that cruel arsehole gets what Karma dictates he deserves for such a heinous act.

I applaude all of you who have already made offers to adopt or foster some of these animals. I wish I was there to help too. Hopefully, all the dogs will be healthy enough in physical and mental condition to be saved. I know for sure all the V's will be homed as V owners are some of the most compassionate I know!

Good work posting that up RBD.
 

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We can do nothing at this point, simply be prepared to help financially if the
dogs have to stay in the shelter while the wheels of justice move along, To
foster if they are allowed to be released for fostering..
From Yahoo Vizsla Talk to the question, "What can we do?"

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Ozkar said:
I hope that cruel arsehole gets what Karma dictates he deserves for such a heinous act.

I applaude all of you who have already made offers to adopt or foster some of these animals. I wish I was there to help too. Hopefully, all the dogs will be healthy enough in physical and mental condition to be saved. I know for sure all the V's will be homed as V owners are some of the most compassionate I know!

Good work posting that up RBD.
It is sad what we humans will do for a buck...
I'm amazed that puppy mills can even continue to operate with all of the knowledge out there about them.
 

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http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/2011/12/petland-usa-relies-on-puppy-mills.html

It is sad what we humans will do for a buck...
I'm amazed that puppy mills can even continue to operate with all of the knowledge out there about them.
As long as there are pet stores that sell dogs and internet selling breeders that will ship a dog to anyone, then people will breed for a buck or a pound.

A friend of mine from England told me after Yogi, the Vizsla, won Crufts in 2009 that the Vizsla became very popular in the UK and Vizsla rescue became very busy shortly after that.

The popularity here in the US of the Vizsla is shown by 48 of the dogs being Vizslas in this one commercial breeder's operation.

I do not believe that there will not be 48 Vizlsa born to hobby breeders in all of California, Oregon and Washington this year.

Education about commerical breeders is tough because PETA would stop all breeding if they could.

Support hobby breeders and educate those who you talk to about the differences. Here is a post that highlights the differences.

http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/2011/07/dont-support-backyard-breed.html

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From the ridgeback list, requests from the NY shelter handling the dogs.
Please be very careful what is said in public, it could undermine their case
with the courts. They would like for everyone to remove any Facebook postings that include
the name of the kennel and the proprietor, until after they have possession of all the dogs.

So if anyone has made any public postings,

please delete any previous postings that included the kennel or man's name
(until after the dogs are all safe).


By the way, if anyone is wondering, Liz called me (original poster, not me)

because she is trying to un-do the incorrect information that was disseminated on the internet, and specifically on Facebook, and she would really prefer that the kennel/man's name is not disseminated on public forums for now.

When I asked how we can best help her help the dogs, she said they will need monetary donations to help with vet bills, boarding fees, and ongoing care.
From post on Yahoo Vizsla Talk.
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