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Good evening,

We have just welcomed a 4 month Viszlador, Murray, to our family!

We totally adore him already but also have a very skiddish cat, Ollie. We are very conscious this was Ollie's house first and also understanding of his nature.

We would like some advice on how to settle Murray to sleep in his crate overnight? At present he goes absolutely bonkers if someone is not downstairs with him (crying, attacking his cage, barking). I am worried to leave him, until he may eventually calm down as I don't want to stress him out as he has only been here a week and don't want to wake any neighbours with the noise!! Any general tips on both pets co habiting would also be greatly appreciated.

Murray is able to begin walks outside of the garden from Tuesday, once his vaccination has given him the required protection. However, we have tried his lead a few times on him in the garden and he just stops, rock still, with his tail between his legs. Any tips how you build his confidence with a lead and start walking? As I'm sure once we can tire him more with walks it may help him settle.

We are very aware that this breed is a very energetic, intelligent animal so we have our work cut out, so any general tips would be great. We have a trainer coming to do some work with Murray later this week as we mindful that he may have missed some vital socialisation due to us bringing him home slightly later than you would usually with a puppy.

Thank you so much
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Firstly with the lead.
Is it the lead, or collar/harness?
put them on him in the house, without holding on to him. Just let him run around with it on and get used to having this weird thing on him.

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How long does he take to calm down. With ours we had to be solid and strong, would take 20mins for her to calm down and those 20mins were the worst. She even managed to get through noise cancelling headphones!! But now She more often than not, goes in without any noise (she still doesnt want to go in, as shed rather eat us sat on our laps).

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Introduce slowly. Our cat c. 13yo gets the entire upstairs as his domain, but has to come through the house to get out to toilet/hunt etc. We originally started holding Ziva (the puppy) well away and just letting her watch him. Eventually we inched closer and closer with her. Usually stopping when Badger (the cat) hissed. Eventually this got them within a few inches, then Badger whacked her on the nose and that was the best thing that happened for their relationship.

Now Ziva watches from a distance, will follow like a love sick teenager but never get close or bark at her.

It also showed us why its so important to train this dogs with love not punishment. This was literally one bop on the nose, without claws, and now the dog wont go close to the cat. If we did this to her, I'd dare think what state our relationship would be.
 

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At 4 months old he has missed some of the things owners, and some breeders do for their puppies at a earlier age. As in starting crate training, and feeling leash pressure. They are use to their pack, and it takes time for them to feel safe in their new environment. Imagine waking up in a new county, no one speaks a language you understand, and you can not contact any family or friends. Even if the people you there try to be nice to you, you would still be stressed. It’s a good thing, dogs are more resilient than people. For the leash. Just put one on him that is only a couple of feet long. Let him get use to dragging it around while supervised. You can slowly hold the leash for a second or two at a time. Release it, and when he goes back to being happy, praise him. Over time you just increase the time your able to hold it, without him becoming scared. Some breeders put very short leashes on the litter. The littermates will off and on tug on each other leash. They are basically teaching each other to give to collar pressure.
So take it slow with him. If he needs you in the same room to settle in the crate. Then stay till he settles. You can also get pet gates that have small openings for cats. That way the cat has a safe place away from the puppy, anytime it needs it.
 
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Update - we've tried to leave him in his crate and just wait for him to calm down but he doesn't. He barks, howls and claws/bites the cage relentlessly. We have tried to make his crate more comfortable, placed a Kong with frozen peanut butter in there and put sone classic FM on quietly in the background.

Any suggestions? I know it is early days but we don't want to never be able to leave him etc.
 

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Update - we've tried to leave him in his crate and just wait for him to calm down but he doesn't. He barks, howls and claws/bites the cage relentlessly. We have tried to make his crate more comfortable, placed a Kong with frozen peanut butter in there and put sone classic FM on quietly in the background.

Any suggestions? I know it is early days but we don't want to never be able to leave him etc.
Myself, and my wife know this exactly all too well.

Our V is 5 ½ months old now, and she did just this 1-2 months ago. I have just taken her out of her crate now where she has just been sleeping/chilling for over 3 hours after a run around in the local park.

I think it just takes time – rewarding them for going into the crate, making it comfy/cosy for them: a bed and blankets. If he whines/cries, praise them for when they are quiet. Little and often. I do concur with people’s thoughts on NOT ‘toughing it out’ and leaving them to get more irate and bark and they will eventually stop. Personal experience now, this is counterproductive and only increases the V’s anxiety and dislike for the crate. It needs to be made a safe space, and not an area of separation and negativity.

Other advice I would give (again, this is only from recent personal experience), when crate training ensure they have had a good bit of exercise and are tired. As soon as you get home – in the crate – they will soon settle.

We have now moved to sleeping back in our own room upstairs, and Skye sleeps in her crate at night downstairs. We still get a whine or two during the night, but with a minute or 2 of gentle verbal praise, she soon settles and goes back to sleep. We started with sleeping downstairs next to the crate while she was getting used to it, us, and her new environment. You just have to take baby steps and cannot rush.

We are not at the stage yet really of leaving the house and leaving her on her own in the crate. I envisage this being still another few months away; building it up slowly and not rushing it/her.

We also are in the same situation as yourselves and have 2 cats. Currently, we are trying to keep upstairs the ‘cat domain’, as at present they all don’t really see eye to eye – this may change in time.

Myself and my wife both had (and still have) the same worried thoughts of – ‘will this ever get better?’. ‘will she ever settle?’, ‘will we ever be able to leave her?’, ‘when are we ever going to get a normal night’s sleep?’. We would read comments and posts of people saying that it does get better, you just have to persevere and maintain the training etc. But it really does. V’s are very intelligent dogs, yes they are Velcro dogs, but they will learn and settle in time and with the right positive reinforcement.

Good luck!

P.S. Skye has the exact same duck kong toy – loves it!
 

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...Myself and my wife both had (and still have) the same worried thoughts of – ‘will this ever get better?’. ‘will she ever settle?’, ‘will we ever be able to leave her?’, ‘when are we ever going to get a normal night’s sleep?’. We would read comments and posts of people saying that it does get better, you just have to persevere and maintain the training etc. But it really does. V’s are very intelligent dogs, yes they are Velcro dogs, but they will learn and settle in time and with the right positive reinforcement...
We are learning this is normal, (now at 16 weeks) and have to trust things will get better. If you look up "Lord Canon the Vizsla" on YouTube they are pretty open and honest, and they assure me after a while things do get better/easier.

We managed a little over an hour away from her yesterday loose in our kitchen. Which was nice, though we were constantly watching on the camera. Now we are wondering how to protect her from herself more than anything. The below is not ok (she gets up onto the window sill, and then onto her crate) but happened about 10mins ago. Puppies were sent to try us I have decided!!

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We are learning this is normal, (now at 16 weeks) and have to trust things will get better. If you look up "Lord Canon the Vizsla" on YouTube they are pretty open and honest, and they assure me after a while things do get better/easier.

We managed a little over an hour away from her yesterday loose in our kitchen. Which was nice, though we were constantly watching on the camera. Now we are wondering how to protect her from herself more than anything. The below is not ok (she gets up onto the window sill, and then onto her crate) but happened about 10mins ago. Puppies were sent to try us I have decided!!

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Some dogs try us for life. I was out of town with the dogs. Shine reminding me why I stopped using wire crates. She will be 5 in February.
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