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I just gave up on putting my puppy in her crate at night. she drove us nuts no matter where we had the crate. She would dig and whine and generally poop in it no matter what we did. She sleeps quietly under the covers with us all night. Mind you- there is no romance any more. She sleeps between us. At least we are getting better sleep this way? A dog bed next to your bed on the floor maybe with the door closed. I know she is too young for this in some people's mind, but it works for us with no problems.
 

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nict, I meant the crate, move the crate beside you! Place a warm water bottle wrapped in a beach towel inside the crate.

That should bring peace and quiet.

* these dogs don't seem to do as well alone. Huskies and other breeds fare better but these guys suffer greatly if left isolated.
 

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My biggest mistake with Darcy started on the very first night I got her home, I but her bed by our bed... ;D but at 2 in the morning the little bundle of gingerness was whimpering and looking up at me :-[ :-[..so I picked the little mite up in my arms and put her under the covers in our bed :eek: :eek: two years down the line Darcy still shares our bed on a night... :-*bless her.
 

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We lasted a little bit longer than the first night but man was it hard! I kept saying No not in the bed..... the crate is important, the crate is a good foundation. NOT! This puppy finally broke my determination to keep her there. Shame on me........ Dharma 1 of many, MCD 0. Oh well we love her to pieces and wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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We just got our baby Rufio and are having the same problem!! he is crying all night, but is perfectly fine during the day in his crate.

Mind you - he has a large play pen for when he is by himself, and his crate is open in there. So, when he is tired, he climbs in and sleeps.

At night, he will fall asleep in his crate, sleep for a few hours, then he is up crying again. Last night he lasted from 1 am to 5 am! I guess that is an improvement :)

Suggestions?
 

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Here is a handout sent home from our breeder (Michel Berner) regarding crate training. Hopefully it helps.

Crate Training Help

Why do you want to crate?
- Makes elimination predictable
- Safe place for the pup
- Prevents mistakes and establishes good habits from the onset
- Dogs are highly social animals and therefore require adequate preparation for spending some of their time in social isolation and solitary confinement

Common mistakes in crate training:
- Isolate the crate
- Never put them in for no reason
- Only put them in for long alone times
- Spend the first weekend with them every second of the day and night, then leave for work on Monday and stick them in the crate for 4 hours
- Let dog out when screaming
- Before you teach them the house rules, you let them have full run of the house

What you want to do:
- Put them in the crate for no reason
- Move the crate around with you
- Feed every kibble they eat in the crate
- Teach them how to be alone in the crate when you are home
- Can try feeding right before bed if stopping early isn’t working

A few things you need to know:
- Dogs don’t develop full bladder control until they are about 5 months of age
- General rule of thumb; When sleeping, puppies can hold their bladder for their age in months plus one.
(e.g. a 3 month old puppy can be expected to hold it for 4 hours)
- Puppies are genetically programmed to cry when isolated.
- The more confined your puppy is the first few weeks at home, the more freedom they will enjoy as an adult for the rest of their life!

Helpful links:
Puppy Play Room: http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/puppy‐playroom‐doggy‐den
Errorless Housetraining: http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/errorless‐housetraining
Chew Toy Training: http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/errorless‐housetraining
Training your dog to be comfortable alone: http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/home‐alone
See Dog Star Daily for more fantastic training articles!
 

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I wish I was given this information as I am a completely ignorant puppy person when it comes to crate training. I think it may be too late to undo the sleeping in our bed or on the sofas at 15 weeks. I don't think it would be easy to go back. She does go in her crate willingly though otherwise during the day. She still makes messes in it though. I feel as though I have failed her in sooooo many ways.......She is just a puppy, how do I make it better or can I?
 

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Is it time? I wish she would figure it out.... some of it isn't just me or my husband. I seriously tried and got so frustrated.
 

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Cash is a rescue from my vet and after his surgery my vet used to take him home with him every night rather than leave him at the clinic. When Cash came to live with me, these are the instructions the vet gave me:
- he likes to sleep in bed with you
- he likes his own pillow
- in the morning he likes to be carried outside and he will go to the bathroom as soon as his feet hit the ground so make sure you carry him to the place you want him to go to the bathroom

I still give my vet a hard time for spoiling him so bad! Now a year and a half later, Cash starts the night cuddled on the bed between me and Penny, but at some point in the middle of the night he goes out and sleeps on the couch.

If you are going the crate route, I'd encourage you to persevere and stick it out, they will eventually get it. If you have the dog in your bed, you will eventually get a routine that works for everyone (oh and as we all know, they are great cuddlers) :)
 

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its a tough one, last night he slept all night until 5am, i think great hes starting to get it. this might last a night or two and them we will have a week of crying again. If the crying was constant everynight i would think ok something has to change here but just as I'm getting to that stage he has two or three good nights!!! But hes only 4 months old so Ive got to cut him some slack
 

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yep i let him out straight away but dosent need to pee, wants to lie on the couch or bed with us until its time for his morning walk and even then its a struggle to get him off the couch. just likes our company i guess
 

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I'm guessing you let him on the bed or couch then?

You need to let him out to relieve himself, and even if he doesn't, he goes back in his crate, no cuddles, playtime or anything. If 5am is not his wake up time, you'll need to teach him that. You have to live through the screaming for a few weeks until he gets it.

Here is the power of positive association with dogs. Watson came home in a pet carrier supplied by the breeder (he was flown here). Poor guy eliminated ALL OVER the carrier. When I took him out, he was covered in poop and reeked! A couple of days later, he had to go back into the (cleaned) carrier for his first vet appointment. When I opened it up for him, he darted right in and laid down. I could tell the breeder had done her best to make this carrier the best place ever for him so that he would be prepared for his flight to us. This is what you have to do with your pup. It doesn't happen overnight, but it does work with time and persistence.
 

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And the confidence it will work and the belief that IF what you are asking is reasonable then the pup needs to know you will insist though also help him by doing all within your power to make it pleasant and perhaps build it slowEXCEPT give in .....that is if its really important to you and your living with a dog . If its not important then just enjoy the company and easy cuddles.
Do you cover the cage ? I found that worked ..that and setting the alarm and peeing her at 2 and 5 ..waking her up to do it ...not talking and popping her straight back in cage.
She s now 4 months and sleeps thro til 7 though if I pop her in earlier than 12 my son who stays up late pees her at 2 still.
You ll need the same attitude to other training things later so you end up with a lovely civilised Viszla . #stillworkingonit
 

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Watson said:
nict9: are you taking him out to the bathroom when he wakes up at 5am crying?

data: i know this is not the case, but sammy looks so sad in all the pics you post of him! i just love his wrinkles!
Sam is tired ::)
I never throw him in then crate and slam the door because I want him out of the way, anymore.
He earned he's way out (see pics attached ;D last one, that's a king size bed)
I place him in the crate because he needs to rest in peace and quiet. Something he could never achieve on a sofa or out of crate, IMO. (IMO, but it's been documented before..see pro trainer Ken, on crates)

:)
 

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