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Hi all! Today we got a real shock! Elza is not even 7 months old but she seems to be having her first season. ???
It's been a while since I had my last dog in season so I need some advice on how long it will last and when do we have to be careful not to let her out.
Couldn't have come at a worse time... :-\
We will be on holiday in two weeks and I'm just hoping it will be done by then...
We texted our breeder but she hasn't replied yet, we might call her later just to find out when was Elza's mother's first season.

Does this mean she will mature early? Will she behave differently in the next few weeks? I know she might get snappy around other dogs at the beginning... Until today we had no indication she's coming to season.
 

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You need to know where she is 24/7. Don't let her exercise in a fenced area without you being present. Every male dog in your area will know she is in heat, so there is no reason to take chances. Some females have even tried to escape their yards when they are ready to stand to a stud.
I had 3 intact females and one intact male in the house before he was neutered. I just keep them separated until positively sure the cycle was over. I even invested in a outdoor run with concrete floor and a welded wire top. I didn't want mine breeding and I surly didn't want to breed with a dog that dug under my fence.
 

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Congratulations - I think? :). My Luna just started her first heat Monday May 28. She's 2 weeks shy of her 1st birthday. It hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be (yet?). She won't wear the bloomers (she chews them off) but she isn't really bleeding much so we just keep her limited to certain areas and have covered every surface she frequents - not the hardwood floors but her bed, sofa, chairs etc.

The hardest part has been not letting her out in the fenced in yard alone without us out there. We have 2 v's (the other is a neutered male) and they love to play together in the yard. Neither are jumpers and it was nice to sometimes just let them run wild and watch from a window inside. We can't do that now. So far she has not tried to escape nor have any male dogs come around but it's only been a couple of days and apparently she's not exactly fertile yet (even though we're not taking any chances).

This is our first experience with a female dog in heat. We plan to have her spayed once the vet says she's ready. I know you have to wait a few months after the heat cycle to make sure there's no residual hormones/swelling.

Good luck to you!
 

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Riley just started bleeding yesterday! We thought she went through her first heat without bleeding, but I guess she was swollen for a long time. She was very moody at first. Now she is very needy and clingy. The poor neighbor dogs are going nuts (most are male - fixed, thankfully) and she's been flirting with them at the fence. We keep a very close eye on her when she goes outside. Our breeder says to keep the females isolated for 30 days (from day 1 of bleeding) to guarantee you will not end up with an unwanted pregnancy.
 

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Thanks for the replies so far.

RBD yes that did help a bit, right now I'm a bit stressed about this situation. I think she's way to young for it. But hey I can't change it no matter what.
We leave in a flat on the 3rd floor so I don't have to worry about unwanted males turning up in the garden but that also means Elza has to go outside somehow to do her business. Never mind the exercise. :eek: :-[
We will not spay her until she's fully grown but don't want any accident puppies either.

Seems like its that time of the year when many bitches having their season coming on. Met with a V in the park just yesterday and the owner told me she's having hers too. ???

Any more suggestions on how long will last would be much appreciated. :-\
 

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Little update on Elza.

This is her 3-4th day in heat. She seems a bit different than usual. She barks a lot actually which normally she doesn't do and also sleeps a lot. She still need the excercise; we went to the woods today and let her off leash a bit for some run time and put her back on it if there was a dog near by. Surprisingly she didn't protest as she normally would.

I'm a bit puzzled, we met 5 dogs in total and none of them gave any indication that they interested in Elza. It's good for us but also makes me wonder why... They didn't even sniffed at her.
Yesterday she didn't bleed at all, today she had a few spots on her pillow and that's it.
Does any of you noticed the same? When will it get stronger?
 

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Elza, I don't think they give off that "come hither" scent until next week.

Luna is on day 5 and no neighborhood dogs have been sniffing around the fence yet. Though he's neutered, our male V isn't very interested in her "in that way" either, and I have heard he would be (even though nothing can happen, I have heard he will likely still try to hump her). So, I'm guessing that will happen next week too.

Luna stopped bleeding 2 days ago I think and even before then didn't bleed much. I think she kept herself pretty clean with licking.

She is definitely out of it though and much more tired than usual.
 

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How are the girls doing in heat?
Elza is a nightmare! :eek: Although she sleeps a lot she still requires a lot of exercise which she cannot have. Off leash walks now off limit, she gets her walk but protests against the leash every time. Try to chew it to get some free run. ???
Surprisingly other dogs still don't seem to be too bothered about her. This is her 10th day and the blood still dark.

Any difference in your Vs? ::)
 

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Riley is on day 9 and she has started barking like a crazed lunatic at all the neighbor dogs (through the fence) every time she is let out. Oh, and her recall has gone from 90% to about 50%. :eek: We haven't ever had to physically drag her back in the house, but I've been tempted.... haha! She still has a super sweet temperament. I'm loving all the neediness! She was getting very independent for a while. Now she's back to wanting cuddles and snuggles when she's tired. <3 We've started buying bully sticks in bulk from Costco. She goes through 1 per day because she isn't getting any off-leash hikes. I think it's definitely helped to keep her occupied.

The blood is still dark for her as well. I've been watching very closely and the color hasn't changed yet. I've noticed her nipples have gotten very swollen over the past few days and she's started putting her tail to the side when we scratch her rear ("flagging"?), so I think she's very close to her "fertile" time. :)

I just found this link online for the canine estrous cycle and it was very informative!

http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/eiltslotus/theriogenology-5361/the_normal_canine.htm
 

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threfsh, Not sure how many bully's you can get at Costo or what the price is, but we order ours online in bulk (www.bestbullystick.com) if you want to compare prices.

Thanks for the link and glad to hear Riley and Elza are doing ok.

Luna is doing ok. Today is day 10. Still no real incidents with other dogs but we don't have many dogs near us. We went to training class the other night with 2 other males in class and only one of them noticed her scent, and even then he just sniffed. They're all puppies though. We weren't going to take her to class since she is in heat but the trainer asked us to. She's very responsible and would never let anything happen.

Luna is definitely more needy but she's also a bit feisty, though not towards us, but towards Flynn. She growled at him last night and it's the first time I've ever seen her growl at him. She was cuddling on the sofa and he came over and was smelling and trying to lick her (which lately she seems to be welcoming). Well, I guess she didn't want him to this time so she gave a tiny growl and he retreated. It was a new dynamic. He's definitely the boss but he totally respected her dismissal.

She also barked at one of the male dogs in training class when he tried to get in the way of her treat. This is something she has never done. I'm sure she's just irritable but I'm glad she's taking it out on them and not me.


I'm sure it's all in my head but I swear when I look at her face she looks more mature and grown up to me. Her blood is still on the dark side too but I think it's getting lighter. There's so little of it, it's hard to say.
 

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threfsh, Not sure how many bully's you can get at Costo or what the price is, but we order ours online in bulk (www.bestbullystick.com) if you want to compare prices.

I'm sure it's all in my head but I swear when I look at her face she looks more mature and grown up to me. Her blood is still on the dark side too but I think it's getting lighter. There's so little of it, it's hard to say.
The prices are about the same at Costco (US). It's something like $20 for a pack of 10. I wonder if the "low-odor" are better than the ones we have - they reek!

Riley definitely looks more mature since she's gone into heat. We've all noticed an obvious change in her chest girth and also how she carries herself. It's been an interesting experience so far! :D
 

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I'm glad you all coping well. :D

Elza managed to get some off leash run late afternoon with my partner in the woods. The weather here in London quite bad so we got lucky (no other people would go out right now!) and she could enjoy herself a bit. After they came home she's got crazy with her soft giraffe and "killed" it numerous times! ;D
Then they played tug and war - which we never do but right now it was a good energy draining exercise. She's out like a light at this moment. ::)

Elza is barking a lot too, but rather just at us or noises or people outside. She hasn't done it before. It seems like a protective bark actually. ???

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The blood is still dark for her as well. I've been watching very closely and the color hasn't changed yet. I've noticed her nipples have gotten very swollen over the past few days and she's started putting her tail to the side when we scratch her rear ("flagging"?), so I think she's very close to her "fertile" time.
Elza's nipples only changed a tiny bit so far. I also scratch her rear to see if she moves her tail but nothing so far. I remembered that from my first dog. I'm just hoping she won't be the 30 days heat cycle girl. :-\
 

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When I got home last night my husband said "I think it's starting. Luna tried to hump my leg tonight."

PS - We buy the stinky bully sticks too. They smell awful!
 

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Elza refused to eat her food tonight. :-\
Did any of your Vs had similar thing? Are they eating ok?
My partner said she was funny with the food at lunch too but eventually she ate the whole.
I'm not going to make a big fuss about it since she still had 2/3 of her daily intake. I was just wondering...

Good luck threefsh and f&lmum!!! This is the time when you have to be extra cautious. Elza still doesn't show any sign of flagging and I barely saw her bleeding today. Wonder if this could be cos of her young age?! Her nipples are bigger then yesterday though.
Just seems she's slowing down a bit. I just want to get over with!
 

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hi just wondering how your girls' seasons are going?
kutya is having her first season (she's 9 months old) and is now on day 12. She is extremely swollen but haven't seen any signs of 'flagging' yet. Her nipples are also really swollen. She is still bleeding a lot which I am surprised at because I thought the bleeding lasted 7-10 days and then changed to a clearer substance ?!
I wondered whether this is 'normal' as I haven't ever been through this before, and whether your girls are all the same/similar?
thanks :)
 

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Not sure what "flagging" is but we had a wild weekend. Today is Luna's 14th day. Flynn is almost 7 (neutered male) and he has gone absolutely crazy for miss Luna. At first there was just licking which we felt was pretty harmless. But then, he
started trying to mount her, though we kept stopping it. When not in heat, if he ever tried to do this to her, she would stop him. Not now though! She's good and ready, moving her tail to the side etc.

So last night, I ran out to the store and my husband was making dinner. The dogs were playing in the fenced in yard and he could watch them from the window. Well, Flynn made contact! Since he's neutered, we know he can't impregnate her but we never thought he would actually try to penetrate her. My husband ran outside, tried to calm them down - and he knew better than to try to force them apart. Luna was crying and trying to get away. Eventually, they untied themselves and there was some blood. From Flynn.

We read after that it can be a dangerous situation, so we are glad to say they're both ok. I'm still pretty traumatized by the whole thing and I'm glad I wasn't home when it happened.

Today, while we're both at work, they're separated in the house (they are normally together). The dog walker will be coming to take them for a couple of on-leash walks. They usually go together but I told him to use his judgement and maybe take them separately if Flynn tries to mount her again.

I can't wait for this to be over!

PS - adrino, Luna hasn't been eating as much lately either.
PS - Jan, I think Luna's blood just started to turn clear this weekend so it's probably any day now for kutya.
 

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^^ That is WILD. wow.

(yes, that's the best technical well-learned response I can muster. sorry :( )
 

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:( :( OMG - that sounds really traumatic for you all !!
I thought it was bad enough just worrying kutya - that sounds awful ! I guess that instinct takes over even flynn is neutered ! It shows how easy it is to let your guard down doesn't it - and that's why we're all so worried about letting them out.
i read somewhere that 'flagging' is pretty much what you described Luna as doing - that if you rubbed their back they would move their tail to the side because they were ready!!
I am glad to hear that there is end in sight for the bleeding to end - it is driving me mad!!
 

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Hi all! We are on day 14 as well and it's actually been getting much better for us. Riley is definitely in her "fertile" period... the bleeding has slowed up and has turned to a very light red, almost pink color. She's been trying to escape the backyard to go see the neighbor dogs. We have to go out with her every time now. Her appetite has decreased significantly - we've been supplementing her kibble with hamburger, green beans, or something else that will get her to eat! The swelling has gone down a bit in her lady parts, so I think we're nearing the end (hopefully). My hubby and I have gotten so out of shape with the combo of her leg injury & then her being in heat! I'm ready for some more hikes!
 
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