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For the past week, Pacsirta has had a few accidents at home. Initially we thought perhaps we didn't notice in time when she asked to be let out and disregarded it as "woops". Then few days ago she did it again on the carpet upstairs, and last night she had two small puddles on the carpet right by our bed. My first thought - parasites! Took the stool samples in, came back yesterday negative. Next guess - UTI! But she desn't urinate frequently and no sign of any blood in the urin. I wanted to get some urine sample to take to the vet when it dawned on me - maybe she's coming into heat!

Her vulva has its own story... Even as a pup her lady parts were a bit bigger and more "out there" as other Vs, and looked larger than our oldest V Sophie's (who was spayed at 9 months). For the past few months, knowing that she can come into her first heat, we have been watching her like hawks. I mean, getting up close personal and everything. Because the size of her vulva is noticeably larger in general, I would get comments even from our trainer about it. So, after reading all the threads on here about the first heats and looking/reading at all the external information shared, I am even more convinced she's coming into heat. Not only Pacsi has been urinating more often, she has also been more clingy. But since she's already such a baby and wants to be with us 24/7, I didn't really think too much of it. The past two days though she literally would velcro herself to my leg. She'd just come up, stand right next to me, and lean on my leg for at least two or three minutes before making a move.

Now, after reading all this info, I am wondering if her vulva was bigger in size this whole time because her coming into heat was very very slow...and now it's here? I also noticed light spots on our white covers in the bedroom, but I am not 100% positive what it is from because she sleeps in her bed at night. However, during the day she does lounge on it. But tonight I am going to put white towels/sheets in Pacsi's bed to see if it's any sort of discharge from her. I can't remember her licking her lady parts more than usual though.

SO.... today I have been nervous and excited at the same time. Of course, my little girl is growing up, and I want to give her the best care I can! But the more I'm reading, the more I'm realizing how different heats can be. It leaves me with a feeling that I need to be prepared for EVERYTHING and ANYTHING haha....which is not possible, of course, because I have never gone through such ordeal before. All the signs can or can not be signs/symptoms of her first heat approaching.

After all this rambling, my question is: how did you realize your V is starting her (first) heat? I'd like to know about the very beginning. I thought I'd know it right away but apparently I was wrong! :-[

(I have attached two pictures where her lady parts are visible - first one at 5/6 mos and second from a few weeks ago....sorry...)
 

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She could be coming in to heat and have a UTI.
My girls seem to need more potty breaks during the heat cycle but don't have accidents in the house.
Since it would be the start of her heat cycle the discharge would be small amounts and not noticeable unless she was laying in one stop for some time. It would still be light in color, more of a pink than red. The red comes later.
I hope this information helps.
 

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I couldn't help but post her also. My Ellie is quite large, larger than your gal. No accidents in the house for a few months and no more than usual outdoor trips. I know she will soon be coming in to her 1st cycle but she was been swelled up for MONTHS..
Could it be a UTI??
 

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TexasRed, thank you so much for your reply! Yes, I am still going to take a urin sample to the vet just to make sure.
She did run up to the back door a few times last night to let us know she needs to go. It makes me feel as if we missed all signs the other times when she might have asked us :(
 

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elliesmom, I will check for UTI just to be on the safe side. I know of a Rottweiler girl who just went through her first heat, and she had a UTI right before and right after her heat. So glad it's weekend, and I can keep a closer eye on her :)
 

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Suliko...have you tried wiping her vulva with a cottonball or tissue? That should show you if she is having discharge.

Gracie's behind looked loose & baggy leading up to her heat. Then one night she bounded off the bed where I was working on my laptop & left a drop of blood on the screen (I was alone in the house & completely freaked out, as I didn't know where it had come from!). Within 2-3 days she was dripping red spots. For us, neediness ramped up during & even post heat. Not so much beforehand.

Pacsirta's parts are very pronounced!
 

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Riley is in the middle of her 2nd heat & I was just wondering this morning if it would be helpful to post a pic of her lady parts. I will take a pic once I get home. :p
 

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Suliko,

We don't have much of experience - Skyy is our first girl dog, when we got Skyy, I took her to the vet the next day.

The vet said she was in heat, her parts were swollen, but she did not have any discharge.
The discharge started 3-4 weeks later, Skyy was "leaking" a lot! She would leave a trail of blood behind, thankfully it did not last very long.

Like Victoria said "Pacsi's parts are very pronounced", I agree, you can not miss it.
 

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VictoriaW, thank you for the helpful tip! I just wiped her, and doesn't look like anything is there... I'll keep watching :D

threefsh, yes, pictures are great! ;D

SkyyMax, oh wow! I hope Pacsi doesn't "leak" too much :-[ About a week ago, I actually tried on doggy diapers on her :D She wasn't too happy, but she didn't try to remove it either. But I don't think we're even close to that phase yet.


I'm watching her tonight, and she seems like herself. Did anyone experience their Vs become more hungry during their heat? Pacsi seems to be around us while we're eating ALL the time.
 

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Hey Suliko, it's funny you posted this...

Elza's having her second heat from right tonight! Came home from work and there was it, blood on her bedding. I already knew she will come into heat since her lady part was swollen for about 3 weeks prior and a few male dogs were sniffing at her in the park making crying noises... :eek:

As you may remember she had her first heat in June so it's literally 6 months later! Like a clock! :mad:
First time I didn't realise at all she was coming into heat, I think because of her age (6.5 months old), we just didn't expect it at all and one day my other half got up at the morning and she was having very dark discharge. :-[
Now I was more prepared.... We've been watching her like a hawk! ::)
I have to say there's a huge difference between her first and second time so far but I put this down to her age, she was really just a puppy in June. A few weeks ago my extremely submissive dog had a fight with another dog (Elza got bitten while she was with our dog walker) and last week she attacked a staffy on leash. She didn't get the dog but would circle around it and bark aggressively. Two of us couldn't get her and when eventually I did she almost bit me as I grabbed her by her collar. She never touched my skin but obviously she was totally in a red zone! She has never done anything like this before and most of the time she ends up on her back if she sees another dog, that's how submissive she is! The reason why I mentioned this because she acts a bit unpredictable at times. I'd like to think this is because of her getting into heat and not because we have a problem with her.

This morning when I took her out there was definitely no discharge whatsoever. Tonight it's bright red or a bit darker straight away. It's not necessary she will have any other discharge beforehand.

Elza always pees a lot outside (she's a marker!) but hasn't had any accidents in the house for a long time. You might be right about the UTI. Better be safe than sorry. :)

Good luck with your girl, once it starts we keep her safe for about 30 days. I think for the first 5 days its still ok around other dogs but its something you need to monitor.
 

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Here are two pics I just had my hubby take of Riley's lady parts... you can tell she's not thrilled about having a picture taken of her backside. :-[

Her nipples also get swollen during her heats. The first heat she had the most swelling, but with this second heat they are only slightly swollen.

She gets very hungry right before her heat (eats like there is no tomorrow) and then she is a very picky eater *during* her heat.
 

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adrino, thank you for sharing your experience! Again, it looks like each time is different, and I should prepare for the worst, and maybe it won't be that bad :D Heat at 6 months must have been so surprising for you. I did read your first heat thread, and it was really helpful. I don't even know what to think because I can't figure out if she's swollen or not...or if it's just her normal size :( She's been this size for long time. She's been good around other dogs and no problems with Sophie. Really, she's my little science project!

threefsh, thank you for the pictures! Riley is swollen ??? No, Pacsi's "bean" hasn't popped that big yet. Pacsi is an "innie" actually....which can also lead to UTIs (hasn't happened yet). As they say - picture is worth a thousand words :D

Rudy, no no no.... no babies for my baby! ;D
 

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Happy New Year! ;)


ps. We have 5 month old spaniel mix, she will come into heat some day. The way I see it, if Sammy starts smelling her more than usual, then it's time to keep her on leash and watch her like a hawk.
 

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I can't believe I am spending my Christmas holiday studying pictures of dog genitalia :eek:

Although a little OT this seems a good place to share a story at our expense. Neither my wife or I have ever had a dog before. I had to drive a round trip of eight hours to pick up our Lyra so imagine my horror when my wife, on meeting our new treasure, looked at her 'parts' and declared 'her' a 'him'. Neither of us realised that female dog genitalia protruded like it does (and of course dog willies are further forward). My first 10 minutes with my new puppy at home were spent googling 'female dog genitalia'!

More relevant to the OP, this has been a useful thread as first time dog owners. We are planning to have Lyra spayed but would rather wait until she is about nine months because my wife will be off work for a couple of weeks at Easter so can help with keeping Lyra entertained while inactive. We are concerned she may have her first heat before then so it is useful to know what to look out for.
 

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datacan, Happy New Year to you too! :) BTW, have WE seen on the forums your spaniel mix? Sorry if you have posted it before.... I don't recall it :-[

Since I don't have Sammy, I wonder if I can use OttosMama's Otto to see if Pacsi is near her heat ;D Yesterday and today Pacsi has been her normal self. No accidents in the house, not super clingy... This is so puzzling... :-\ I'll just keep watching her.

Lyra, you're story is too funny ;D AND there are lady parts that are "innies" and "outies", too! My both Vs kinda have "innies"...which are more prone to urinary tract infections. Luckily mine haven't had one. Well, I still need to test Pacsi to rule it completely out. I'm wondering if I started this thread too early because the pre-heat symptoms - more frequent urination and clinginess - haven't been shown yesterday and today. Maybe I jumped the gun. BUT she is 12 months old and hasn't had her heat yet.... and as we know from adrino's Elza, they can go into heat as early as 6 months! AND every heat is different. If you use the "search" option to the right and type in "first heat", you'll find a lot more useful information on here.

So, as I already stated, today Pacsi is her normal self. We have also had my family stay at our house for some time. Perhaps that has something to do with her recent behavior? ??? Everyone loves her and she loves everyone back....but one never knows. Also, I am very tempted to meet up with OttosMama's Otto tomorrow ::) Would it be taking a chance? I remember we met late summer, and Otto was very interested in her then. Following her, smelling her lady parts and even licking them once or twice. She didn't have any discharge then though or anything... Maybe I missed something? She really is making me think too much about this ;D

P.S. I put white pillowcases in each of the dog beds (they tend to switch at night) to see if I can see any spotting... This is how they looked this morning - Sophie's to the right and Pacsi's to the left.... :eek: I will never find anything in Pacsi's bed :mad:
 

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Suliko I doubt you will miss it when she starts to bleed. Elza has very dark bedding with a purple blanket, last night when I came home I saw it the moment I went down to pet her.
Any male dog will sniff at her with a lot more interest than normally. I wouldn't be worried to much for now.
We still let her off leash for a few more days. She will not be 'willing' right from the start. I'll try to take some pics too just for comparison. It's totally different from what threefsh posted. :eek:

To Lyra, I would reconsider to spay your dog too early. We had many discussion on the forum about it. It could have an effect on your dog's growth that you will not know until its too late. We live in a flat so for us it's even harder, we have to go out no matter what, cannot just take her to the garden for some exercise. Still we have decided to wait with spaying. This is Elza's second heat and once it's over we will spay her before her next one. By then she will be around 17-18 months old. That's still not great but better than what most Vet would suggest. It is indeed an inconvenience for us but for the sake of our dog's growth and health we just deal with it. Hope you look into it a bit more. :)
 

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Adrino I will look into this further.

Our vets (who we are very happy with and very pro Vizsla) don't believe there is any scientific evidence that waiting makes any difference but I will read around the subject before we go ahead.
 

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Miley had her first heat at 1 year old.
She was very calm and sleepy prior the event, and her nipples and vulva got swollen, then I noticed blood stains on our bedding and i knew her first heat is here.

Well it was 3 weeks, with constant cleaning because she didn't want to wear the pads. Thank God we have hardfloors and leather sofas..I rolled up the carpets and after the first week of relatively heavy bleeding it eased up.

Hope little Pacsirta will get over it soon.
 

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adrino, phew...I feel better. I'll let her play with other dogs and not worry too much until I get some evidence she's really actually going into heat. Right now I'm still not sure... :-[

Mileysmom, thank you! I just hope it won't be dragged out too long. We have carpeting in our bedroom, but I'm planning on crating her at night and I really hope she'll keep the diapers on while around the house.
 
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