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Calum,

In the articles section on the right is "Great Family Dogs"
(what is interesting in the article is that the Vizsla is not listed.)

Maybe you could add the article "I Read they were good with kids"

http://www.vccne.net/files/Articles/goodwkids.pdf

Just my .02

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Great article! The major points that I like:

"...good intentions alone don’t raise
good dogs."

"It takes more than love to live with a Vizsla."

"...we should be wise enough to protect this breed by being honest with
who and what they are..."
 

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The best parts of a V - their dedication and desire to please people in most any task.

V's are so wonderful with kids - really love how my Aoife curls up in their laps after running through the fields with them.

Indeed - wise to protect the breed with enough honesty to admit when the V's are in our lives to serve "US", to be our 'pet monkey', to do OUR bidding...and when WE are around to help them live happier lives.

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"A very dominant male puppy" thread fits perfectly into this. The breeder had no interest in helping the new owner that is having trouble with her dog and small kids. Suggestions of "leathering' the 10 week old pup for bad behavior. :mad:

Sometimes I get discouraged at the greed. :-\

Calum: Please add the article to this sites "Articles."

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I agree - the article should definitely be added.

The dominant male puppy thread has me so upset I created a new blog post specifically for it linking to the article. If I can keep just 1 Vizsla from going to the wrong home I will be happy.
 

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For me I always go with pups bred to hunt - from the get go you know they have to be trained - with that training comes all the skills to be a great family dog - I think a hunting dog is more intelligent than a lap mutt - in the end it all comes down to putting in the work - a V of any breeding has to be trained!
 

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Wasn't sure if I should reply on this thread or the dominant pup one, but I wanted to comment from the perspective of a Momma to 3 young'ns. My kids were 8, 5, & newly 3 when we bought Pumpkin home. Like everyone else, we did a lot of reading & talking before getting a Vizsla. We are an active family, experienced dog owners including a few hunting breeds (my husband grew up hunting, breeding, & raising Labs), & aware of the V's need for ongoing mental & physical stimulation. None of that was helpful in giving me a solid appreciation of the Vizsla as a family member. No amount of research prepared me for the POWER of the V! I liken it to having a baby-especially the 1st. I read every pregnancy "What to Expect" book or article, spoke to/asked ?s of every willing mother I could find, documented every doc visit better than tax records, shopped for a car seat, crib, & stroller with all the seriousness of purchasing a home, watched birthing shows, and read some more. All that, and it was still not possible to really understand how my life was going to change when Ellen was born. By the time # 3 came along, I'm not sure I even remembered my due date. I recommend "newbie" V owners listen to more experienced folks on this site even when it's not what we want to hear. Having owned more than one V or experience with a V's purpose brings a lot of credibility in my opinion. I'm digressing though. Back to the family...Pumpkin's power presents the biggest challenge for us. By the time she was a couple of months old, Pumpkin routinely leveled my son when he got off the bus. It was from excitement. She didn't have to jump. Just a simple V "body-check" would take my son off his feet (P wags her whole rear end when really excited ;D) I consider Pumpkin to be trained better than avg (compared to general dog owners anyway); but, she is a hunter. Despite picking a lower key pup, P is a powder-keg. Explosive in the field. Get her around birds, and she drags me around like a stuffed animal on a check cord ::) I'm 5'5 & 106 lbs. Not big, but I'm not wimpy, and P can lay waste to me if she decides too. I can only imagine how a larger male &/or dominant V can really throw a family/kids for a loop. Pumpkin is 46 lbs of solid muscle. She is a freight train on a check cord following scent. I've had more rope burns than I should (one through a glove). By contrast, I could walk by grandmother's Rottweiler on a leash at age 8. I would never allow my younger children to walk Pumpkin on a leash, despite being fairly secluded in our neighborhood/land, and P healing well. It's not because P would intentionally do something wrong, but I RESPECT her hunting instincts! All it would take is a bird or scent to create a recipe for serious kid injury. People often talk about very young children, but I am finding P more of a challenge as the kids get older! The older they get, the more activities we have, and even more energy is spent working P at all hours of the day & night. It requires creativity & dedication, and that is without a significant behavior issue. Now that we have more kids over for playdates & sleepovers, I'm required to provide more oversight. 90% of the kids that have been to our house are afraid of Pumpkin! They squeal, run, hide, cry, and even do not nice things (caught one throwing sticks & acorns at P :mad:) I do not tolerate anybody's kid misbehaving around P nor will I lock her away, BUT it can be a pain. Sometimes this means disappointment for my kids, because I'm selfish. I want a playdate to be helpful to me. If I have to constantly monitor dogs & child, then its not worth it to me; therefore, X child will not be coming over unless a weekend & dad is home too. Pumpkin does not listen to my kids. She loves them, very affectionate on her terms, but she does not take commands from them without a treat. She will steal their toys if left on the floor (no sympathy from me for the kids), and they can tell her to "leave it" until their face turns blue. Be prepared to train your kids just as much, probably more depending on age, than your V! Anyway, I'm just rambling. Bottom line: A Vizsla's power, even with the best disposition, should not be underestimated around kids of any age. Sorry for the long & disjointed post. The kids are interrupting ::)
 

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Kellygh,
That post should be read by every would-be Vizsla owner.

My Bailey is 62 pounds and he can knock a kid off the ground with a hip check in happiness.

Very well written. I don't know how you do it. When we were raising our two daughters I can guarantee you we wouldn't have been able to. It was hard enough with a lazy cocker spaniel.

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Well put Kellygh!

RBD, Elroy is just over 50 pounds and he could probably knock me off of my feet if he truly wanted to!

We're expecting in September (see the Getting V Ready For a Baby Thread) and trying the best to prepare. We're the last of our group of friends to have children, and anytime one of their toddlers are over, it's a constant juggling act of conversation with them, commands to Elroy, repeat! I'm hoping the fact that the baby will grow with Elroy around will help in our case, I guess we'll find out! Let the juggling continue...
 

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threefsh: I don't know why I missed your blogspot listed at the bottom of your posts. I will check it out :)

RBD: One of the things that keeps me making sure everyone's needs are met is big, fat guilt :)! The reason P still drags me around on a check cord is, because her training moves at a slower place, sometimes stalls for a week or 2, due to time. Can't get to the trainer as much as I would like to due to the kids, life etc. We do enough to give her a purpose, but I always feel like it's not good enough. I was encouraged to get JH when she was just old enough to make a go, but we didn't have &/or make the time. This past quail season, Pumpkin was certainly capable of knocking off the JH title in 3 trips out, but again...Maybe the upcoming season will be our time? Bailey inspires me to get it together, invest in consistent training for us both, because I would love to see P get her MH title one day. She is capable & loves the field. Family life is her weakness.

Thanks y'all :)
 

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redbirddog said:
"A very dominant male puppy" thread fits perfectly into this. The breeder had no interest in helping the new owner that is having trouble with her dog and small kids. Suggestions of "leathering' the 10 week old pup for bad behavior. :mad:

Sometimes I get discouraged at the greed. :-\

Calum: Please add the article to this sites "Articles."

RBD
not sure if I've got the tools to do this RBD, but will have a look ;)
 

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Kellygh, it sounds to me like you're doing more than most folks would do in terms of meeting Pumpkin's needs! Reading your post makes me a little nervous because we are expecting our first child this winter and it's going to be a juggling act making sure the v's continue to get their due. For the past 7 years it's been all v all the time. Our plan is for Luna to go for her JH in Sept and I'm really glad all of this time we're dedicating to field training is pre-baby. We're just going to have to find a way to keep it up post-baby!
 

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Brilliant post kelly ;D, as dad to boisterous 5 and 6 year old boys I found myself nodding at every sentence. It comes down to socialising dogs and kids together, respecting each others space etc etc etc, tonight for example, Harrison (my eldest) wanted to come on our evening walk so I decided we'd take the air rifle and see if we could pop another rabbit (we didn't), but i asked him, "do you want to carry the rifle or hold Ruby?" I was pleased with his response "I'll carry the rifle if the safety catch is on and it's open, when it get's to heavy I'll walk Ruby"
We are first time V owners and Ruby is our first family dog (although me and my wife have always had dogs in our lives, but not since kids came along until Rubes), but like yourself we're a very active family and thought a V would fit seamlessly into our lifestyle.....after the puppy teeth I'm glad to say she does ;D
 

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harrigab said:
redbirddog said:
"A very dominant male puppy" thread fits perfectly into this. The breeder had no interest in helping the new owner that is having trouble with her dog and small kids. Suggestions of "leathering' the 10 week old pup for bad behavior. :mad:

Sometimes I get discouraged at the greed. :-\

Calum: Please add the article to this sites "Articles."

RBD
not sure if I've got the tools to do this RBD, but will have a look ;)
I've stickied it in this section Rod
 

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http://www.shebudgets.com/lifestyle/the-ten-best-dog-breeds-for-families/18077/10

10 best dog breeds for families. And at #9, you guessed it: The Vizsla.

Originally a middle-European hunting dog, and little known outside of its native Hungary, the Vizsla is gentle, loyal, quiet and affectionate. It does require a lot of exercise — not a problem if you have energetic children. Still, it prefers to spend a lot of time indoors with its family, and is very eager to learn and show off. If you want to teach your children by teaching them to train dogs, then this breed is a good choice.
Will they never understand? :-\

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Just barely beaten by the Pug ... and right after the Irish Setter :eek: ... Where is the GSD, it should be #3.

Where do these geniuses get their sense of humor?
 

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redbirddog said:
It does require a lot of exercise — not a problem if you have energetic children.
They neglect to mention that you will spend a lot more time wiping away tears and picking your kid up off the floor when your V just so happens to unintentionally knock over your "energetic child." I'm a grown adult and my boy has knocked me over or tripped quite a few times. Put them with a child who isn't sturdy on their feet and that will happen x100! Why is it that they neglect to mention this?

I decided that I'm going to start a not-for-profit where someone can borrow my V to see if it's a good fit with their family. I guarantee that after 20 minutes they'll beg me to pick him up and decide to move onto a lab or golden.
 
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