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05-13-2012 10:20 PM
Re: "Drag of the Race"

Hey willowynd, this is Josh. I just decided i might as well create a profile here if I am going to be lurking and spying on all your posts. This matter regarding an all age dog is one that I too have trouble wrapping my head around. With your help I am coming to grasps with the intentions and history of trailing, more especially HORSE BACK TRIALS. I am a foot hunter. I just seem incapable of understanding why some one would want a dog to range so far. Why would a dog with high drive and short range be any less desirable in a breeding program than a dog with comparable drive and a half mile range?
05-11-2012 02:31 AM
R E McCraith
Re: "Drag of the Race"

Ken thank you for the reply - The heart is a lonely hunter and V's have always filled mine in the field and at home - but under dog my AZZ - LOL - after 45yrs in the field with a V catch us if you can - never happens ! Nice to know they are part of your family because it should NEVER be any other way ! KeePUP the good work !
05-11-2012 01:23 AM
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05-10-2012 04:37 PM
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Thanks, TexasRed, redbirddog, and WillowyndRanch, for the videos and information! I think I am getting the picture now.

Can you imagine, back in the olden days when there wasn't a grocery store on every corner, what a valuable asset a good hunting dog would be?? Your family would not go hungry at dinner time! Yes, a good hunting dog has all my respect... and the beauty of it is that they love what they're doing!

I had a Great Uncle who owned English Pointers, and remember eating a variety of game birds for dinner at their house. His wife (my Great Aunt Edith) was an accomplished cook, too.
05-10-2012 04:33 PM
R E McCraith
Re: "Drag of the Race"

Willow ? as a breeder why did you pick the V 2 become a breeder of - as a trainer of all pointers - you must love living with the V - after 45yrs + with V's in my home I know my answers - maybe this ? should be under hunting or trialing - but for those that may never put the PUP in the feild I know your answers will enlighten them - Hunt well and Hunt often !
05-10-2012 03:08 PM
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05-10-2012 02:15 PM
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for mswhipple:

ALL-AGE AND LIMITED ALL-AGE STAKES. An All-Age Dog must give a finished performance and must be under reasonable control of its handler. It must show a keen desire to hunt, must have a bold and attractive style of running, and must show independence in hunting. It must range well out in a forward moving pattern, seeking the most promising objectives, so as to locate any game on the course. Excessive line-casting and avoiding cover must be penalized. The dog must respond to handling but must demonstrate its independent judgment in hunting the course, and should not look to its handler for directions as to where to go. The dog must find game, must point staunchly, and must be steady to wing and shot. Intelligent use of the wind and terrain in locating game, accurate nose, and style and intensity on point, are essential.

A dog that does not point cannot be placed. A dog should not be called back to point after the running of its brace except under the most extreme and unusual circumstances.

At least 30 minutes shall be allowed for each heat.
05-10-2012 01:39 PM
Re: "Drag of the Race"

Originally Posted by mswhipple
But specifically, will someone please define an "All Age Dog" for me? Thanks! (Just trying to learn more.)
Found a couple of videos to help show the diffence.
First AA dogs.

Second. Bird dog challenge.
Close hunting NOT AA dogs. Most birds in the fastest time wins.
05-10-2012 01:07 PM
R E McCraith
Re: "Drag of the Race"

The V - 1000yrs of breeding for a perfect V ? - No - it was for a V that suited the owners style of hunting and a companion dog at the end of the day - that is why there is such diversity in the breed - to lose any positive trait in the breed will be a loss to all of us - Hunt large or hunt close - it has always been what the owner was looking for - so know the breed - know the breeder - know the pedigree - and hope you have some of that 1% in your pup - idle paws = a idle mind - keep them running!
05-10-2012 01:00 PM
Re: "Drag of the Race"

But specifically, will someone please define an "All Age Dog" for me? Thanks! (Just trying to learn more.)
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