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02-10-2017 07:45 PM
harrigab
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

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Originally Posted by harrigab
I maybe in a position to add to this thread some more in the quite near future for now all I'll say is that a 4 month old boy has come up for rehoming
well I missed out on this pup, but he has gone to a great and deserving home
02-03-2017 06:52 AM
lyra
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

Obviously I haven't had the same experience as you will but I've seen a few posts here regarding new puppies with an existing dog. I haven't seen jealousy as a problem but pups always require a lot of time and attention at first, as I'm sure you have experienced. They can also be quite wearing, not only to humans, but also adult dogs. Make sure Brian gets some space when he needs it. Some dogs will tell pups when they have had enough, some won't so you may have to intervene if the pup is getting to be too much.

I presume you have thought about how you are going to satisfy the exercise requirements of two very different needs. This would be a good opportunity to maintain some individual attention for Brian while everybody makes the transition to a two dog family.

You are clearly aware of the need to make sure Brian gets enough attention so I doubt you will have an issue.
02-03-2017 02:56 AM
tknafox2
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

Although Fergy and Max do not live in the same household, They play nearly every day, and have spent many weeks together when we dog sit Max.
They are not siblings, Max is about 4 mo. younger then Fergy. They never fight, or get rough with each other. They always play and invent their own games. Whether they find a stick, a plastic food container, pine cone, paper cup, bone, ball, etc. in this case, Fergy found a pair of small kids soccer
cleats, on the park bench...


https://youtu.be/EU7suf2P27Y
02-02-2017 08:29 PM
pixiexyz
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

Hello again

Thank you all for your posts. Of course I am not expecting ready prescription for success and guarantees of behaviour.
I do appreciate sharing your stories, experiences with me and others.

Harrigab- thatís fabulous, I hope that all will work very well for you and your beautiful doggies.
Rbka- thanks a lot. I cannot tell you how many times I have looked at the photos of your amazing Nico and a new puppy  They are truly adorable, I get emotional each time I look at them! I hope we will get as lucky too 
Lyra- thank you so much for your response. It is so helpful and interesting to read about your experience.

My Brian is a softie, very well behaved, though very willful, extremely smart, funny, gentle and very social, and easy going.
Do you think he can get jealous of a little puppy?I don't want him to feel that he is now less important to me...! I love him so much, and will do everything so he feels as special to us as he is now. He gets lots and lots of love and attention 
02-02-2017 04:30 AM
harrigab
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

I maybe in a position to add to this thread some more in the quite near future for now all I'll say is that a 4 month old boy has come up for rehoming
02-01-2017 08:06 AM
lyra
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

I would make a couple of points - dogs are individuals but they are also pack animals.

Replies here will give you a rough idea of what to expect but ultimately how YOUR two dogs get on may be different. That said, as pack animals, if most dogs didn't learn to get on when living together it wouldn't be much of a pack! I can't remember any posts here from owners saying there dogs couldn't get on. While doing a quick internet search I have seen posts about terriers having to be rehomed because a stable relationship had broken down and the dogs were frequently fighting (real fighting, not just getting a bit antsy with each other). That's a very different breed though and it is not unknown for some terriers to be very 'assertive' (I'm trying to be diplomatic! )

We got our second V because we wanted company for our first, Lyra, and also because Lyra was becoming quite sedentary when out on walks, she stopped roaming freely and looking for birds and rabbits like she used to. She was about two and a half at the time. She is not a typical V, she is quite a nervous dog and had become quite 'reactive'. She wasn't openly aggressive but she wouldn't tolerate other dogs that came up to her unless it was one of the few Vs that she knows well.

Because of this we obviously had some concerns bringing a new dog into her life. We decided we wanted a rescue - we wanted to give a new home to an unwanted dog and I couldn't cope with the demands of a puppy. I work from home and I would have to be the primary carer and it just wouldn't be practical from past experience (when my work load was much lower).

It was suggested that we went for a male. There seems to be no proper research on this yet but it is suggested than in a pack that the bitches dominate and having two bitches can be more of problem than a dog in a bitch. Because of the nature of Lyra I was expecting some initial problems but believed that once they got to know each other they should get on well.

In the end we got another bitch, Ruta. I was quite nervous when we went to meet her that there would be some terrible incident. We met her with one of the rescue organisers and her three other Vs. Lyra mostly ignored them all while the rest of them rushed around playing with each other. Ruta and Lyra are chalk and cheese. Ruta is extremely outgoing and boisterous (even by V standards). Most amazing though, when we got them home there were no problems at all. We had one incident after about six weeks. Ruta was pestering and pestering Lyra to engage in play and being very physical with her (Ruta is also a lot bigger than Lyra) and she wouldn't take no for an answer until Lyra bit her on the muzzle hard enough to leave a canine puncture wound. That has been the only time that Lyra has ever shown Ruta any aggression (we've had the two of them for 2.5 years now) and was probably deserved in the circumstances. Funnily enough, Ruta still behaves much the same with Lyra but if Lyra doesn't want to engage she just ignores Ruta until she stops.

Despite their wildly different temperaments they get on really well. Getting Ruta achieved our objective of getting Lyra 'out of herself' and the pair of them now spend walks roaming the countryside playing and 'hunting' together. In the house they play a little but generally speaking they just slob around which isn't uncommon for adult Vs that get enough excercise/stimulation. They still want a bit of attention from me from time to time. It is difficult to judge how much they get out of each other's company in the home. There are no obvious signs but then again what would you look for? As a human (pretty close anyway ) I can enjoy having somebody else in the house. Even if they aren't in the same room it can be nice just knowing they are there but that is something that is in my head, not something you can see. I believe it is the same for my dogs.

For us, getting a second V has been a great success and at least double the pleasure!
01-31-2017 01:28 PM
Rbka
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

Hi pixiexyz - welcome to the forum!
We only got our 2nd V boy last week and the BIGGEST motivation was to have a companion for Nico. He is just so so so social! My husband takes him to work 1 or 2 times/week where he gets to play with my hubby's boss' golden retriever and it just seemed so organic - they play, snooze, play, go sniff different things, play, snooze... He always comes back content and tired. So we wanted him to get that every day! So far so good - they both like human intervention (like for us to throw the toy or to act like a play structure) - and obviously at this point we supervise them closely so nobody accidentally gets hurt. They have been exhausting themselves so hard - they are sleeping much more now than they were a few days ago when Sam first got home. It makes our lives raising this pup so much easier!! They have been napping for 2 hours now without a peep
On a similar note - we have friends who have a V that Nico loves and when we spend the weekend with them Nico is kind of feverish with excitement - he can't stop playing! Even at 3 years old, he fights sleep in order to try to keep playing... We were hoping to squash that intense "can't-stop-playing" behaviour by giving him more access to play!

Nico is intact and he is not dominant EXCEPT when being repeatedly mounted by another dog. Mostly he butt-smacks them repeatedly and then if they really don't get it he will tell them what's what. He does not hump or demonstrate ANY dominant behaviours. We are hoping to not have to neuter too and if Sam is as good as Nico we don't foresee any problems... but I can't give you an answer for sure. We discussed with our breeder and she thinks with the dogs' temperaments they will probably be okay intact - so we're hoping!

One of the issues I had was "how will I love a 2nd V as much as I love Nico?!" hahaha but that all melted away with the sweet puppy smell and cuteness and wonderfulness of these dogs :
01-31-2017 01:18 PM
harrigab
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln5jH_P8l3Q

they certainly play together, but as I've said, one's a boy and one's a girl. I'm sure there must be plenty of people here with same sex V's that could answer you better.
01-31-2017 01:11 PM
pixiexyz
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

Hello

I guess what I'm trying to find out, asking particularly those of you who had a similar experience are two things:

1. Are the two V likely to play together, aside of attention they receive from humans? Do they entertain each other independently from humans?
Sorry for a silly question. It is not really that silly. You see - I'm considering 2nd dog purely to keep them both happy, not 'because I think it's cool to have two dogs'.

2. Two V boys living in harmony. Without scary fights and aggression, competition etc.

***It's important to clarify - Brian (our 19month old male) is intact, and we would like the new puppy to stay intact too.
We really really do NOT want to neuter our boy (-s).
This is the reason why we thought we'd get a boy. If we had a girl- we'd have to spay her, to avoid 'accidents' , and we do not want to do that.

Anyone here with a word of wisdom please?
01-31-2017 10:47 AM
texasred
Re: wirehaired vizsla puppy as a play mate/companion for our 19mths old vizsla boy

I had a male, and two females (all intact) living in the house for over 2 years. I would just keep them separated during during the breeding part of the heat cycle.
I had my male neutered at a little over 3 years old. I was never going to breed him due to temperament, and I had let him mature into a dog. It sure cuts down on the whining, but they still get frisky, and have to be watched.
No chance of puppies, but you could have a injury if you don't keep them from tying.
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