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post #1 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Great family Dogs

Calum,

In the articles section on the right is "Great Family Dogs"
(what is interesting in the article is that the Vizsla is not listed.)

Maybe you could add the article "I Read they were good with kids"

http://www.vccne.net/files/Articles/goodwkids.pdf

Just my .02

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post #2 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 06:14 PM
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Re: Great family Dogs

Great article! The major points that I like:

"...good intentions alone donít raise
good dogs."

"It takes more than love to live with a Vizsla."

"...we should be wise enough to protect this breed by being honest with
who and what they are..."
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post #3 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 06:36 PM
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Re: Great family Dogs

The best parts of a V - their dedication and desire to please people in most any task.

V's are so wonderful with kids - really love how my Aoife curls up in their laps after running through the fields with them.

Indeed - wise to protect the breed with enough honesty to admit when the V's are in our lives to serve "US", to be our 'pet monkey', to do OUR bidding...and when WE are around to help them live happier lives.



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post #4 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 08:53 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Great family Dogs

"A very dominant male puppy" thread fits perfectly into this. The breeder had no interest in helping the new owner that is having trouble with her dog and small kids. Suggestions of "leathering' the 10 week old pup for bad behavior. >

Sometimes I get discouraged at the greed. :-\

Calum: Please add the article to this sites "Articles."

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post #5 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 10:43 AM
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Re: Great family Dogs

I agree - the article should definitely be added.

The dominant male puppy thread has me so upset I created a new blog post specifically for it linking to the article. If I can keep just 1 Vizsla from going to the wrong home I will be happy.

Check out Riley & Cooper's blog: http://ltlor.blogspot.com/

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post #6 of 98 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 12:22 PM
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Re: Great family Dogs

For me I always go with pups bred to hunt - from the get go you know they have to be trained - with that training comes all the skills to be a great family dog - I think a hunting dog is more intelligent than a lap mutt - in the end it all comes down to putting in the work - a V of any breeding has to be trained!
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Wasn't sure if I should reply on this thread or the dominant pup one, but I wanted to comment from the perspective of a Momma to 3 young'ns. My kids were 8, 5, & newly 3 when we bought Pumpkin home. Like everyone else, we did a lot of reading & talking before getting a Vizsla. We are an active family, experienced dog owners including a few hunting breeds (my husband grew up hunting, breeding, & raising Labs), & aware of the V's need for ongoing mental & physical stimulation. None of that was helpful in giving me a solid appreciation of the Vizsla as a family member. No amount of research prepared me for the POWER of the V! I liken it to having a baby-especially the 1st. I read every pregnancy "What to Expect" book or article, spoke to/asked ?s of every willing mother I could find, documented every doc visit better than tax records, shopped for a car seat, crib, & stroller with all the seriousness of purchasing a home, watched birthing shows, and read some more. All that, and it was still not possible to really understand how my life was going to change when Ellen was born. By the time # 3 came along, I'm not sure I even remembered my due date. I recommend "newbie" V owners listen to more experienced folks on this site even when it's not what we want to hear. Having owned more than one V or experience with a V's purpose brings a lot of credibility in my opinion. I'm digressing though. Back to the family...Pumpkin's power presents the biggest challenge for us. By the time she was a couple of months old, Pumpkin routinely leveled my son when he got off the bus. It was from excitement. She didn't have to jump. Just a simple V "body-check" would take my son off his feet (P wags her whole rear end when really excited ;D) I consider Pumpkin to be trained better than avg (compared to general dog owners anyway); but, she is a hunter. Despite picking a lower key pup, P is a powder-keg. Explosive in the field. Get her around birds, and she drags me around like a stuffed animal on a check cord : I'm 5'5 & 106 lbs. Not big, but I'm not wimpy, and P can lay waste to me if she decides too. I can only imagine how a larger male &/or dominant V can really throw a family/kids for a loop. Pumpkin is 46 lbs of solid muscle. She is a freight train on a check cord following scent. I've had more rope burns than I should (one through a glove). By contrast, I could walk by grandmother's Rottweiler on a leash at age 8. I would never allow my younger children to walk Pumpkin on a leash, despite being fairly secluded in our neighborhood/land, and P healing well. It's not because P would intentionally do something wrong, but I RESPECT her hunting instincts! All it would take is a bird or scent to create a recipe for serious kid injury. People often talk about very young children, but I am finding P more of a challenge as the kids get older! The older they get, the more activities we have, and even more energy is spent working P at all hours of the day & night. It requires creativity & dedication, and that is without a significant behavior issue. Now that we have more kids over for playdates & sleepovers, I'm required to provide more oversight. 90% of the kids that have been to our house are afraid of Pumpkin! They squeal, run, hide, cry, and even do not nice things (caught one throwing sticks & acorns at P >) I do not tolerate anybody's kid misbehaving around P nor will I lock her away, BUT it can be a pain. Sometimes this means disappointment for my kids, because I'm selfish. I want a playdate to be helpful to me. If I have to constantly monitor dogs & child, then its not worth it to me; therefore, X child will not be coming over unless a weekend & dad is home too. Pumpkin does not listen to my kids. She loves them, very affectionate on her terms, but she does not take commands from them without a treat. She will steal their toys if left on the floor (no sympathy from me for the kids), and they can tell her to "leave it" until their face turns blue. Be prepared to train your kids just as much, probably more depending on age, than your V! Anyway, I'm just rambling. Bottom line: A Vizsla's power, even with the best disposition, should not be underestimated around kids of any age. Sorry for the long & disjointed post. The kids are interrupting :
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Re: Great family Dogs

Kellygh,
That post should be read by every would-be Vizsla owner.

My Bailey is 62 pounds and he can knock a kid off the ground with a hip check in happiness.

Very well written. I don't know how you do it. When we were raising our two daughters I can guarantee you we wouldn't have been able to. It was hard enough with a lazy cocker spaniel.

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Re: Great family Dogs

Kellygh: *applauds*

Do you mind if I steal that as a quote for my blog? What a perfectly well-written post!

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Re: Great family Dogs

Well put Kellygh!

RBD, Elroy is just over 50 pounds and he could probably knock me off of my feet if he truly wanted to!

We're expecting in September (see the Getting V Ready For a Baby Thread) and trying the best to prepare. We're the last of our group of friends to have children, and anytime one of their toddlers are over, it's a constant juggling act of conversation with them, commands to Elroy, repeat! I'm hoping the fact that the baby will grow with Elroy around will help in our case, I guess we'll find out! Let the juggling continue...

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