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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-29-2020, 04:39 PM Thread Starter
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Adopted viszla

Hi everyone. I am new here and i have few questions about my dear Jack. Jack is a 10 months old viszla(neutered) and he lost his human. He was in really good hands and they did some training as well with him. But i think he was the boss of the house. I met the coach they were working with and with him he obeys perfectly. He showed me what they were working on. Now to the fun part. I just can not stop him from pulling the leash like crazy. I tried turning 180, walking to oposite direction, try not to pull him to hard. I have treats, sometimes i put them right in front of his nose, just to get attention, but his focus is only on the dog. Usually when we are alone or we are working inside he is crazy about them. I posted a short clip for you dear forum people to see. I didn't have strength any more, because if (like i said before) i tried to turn around and walk the opposite direction, he janked me really hard back to his focus. I know he must be overwhelmed with the situation, loosing his owner, switching houses, etc... I've read a lot about viszlas and positive reinforcment.... but in this situation? How on earth? So if there is someone who can help us get on track and start enjoying our walks i would really appreciate it.
And yes: i am sorry for all the gramatical mistakes. English is not my first language.
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Can i post a video of our ordeal somewhere?
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I normally upload my videos to YouTube first
Then I can share the link here

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looking forward to see the video. at 10 months it is very normal for them to pull. on top of that as u mentioned he has gone thru a huge change. so try first and build a relationship with him, practice a lot at home and slowly and gradually take him to other places, setting expectations of not pulling for a 30 seconds, reward, sniff, then a minute walk, then let him sniff etc. consider these sessions as training at this point and not as a walk you would do with a mature trained dog, as your perspective of enjoyable walk is different from his at this point.
any chance u can let him run his energy before these sessions? that usually helps focusing a lot.
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Today we went early in the morning. Since it is still really dark outside and no people around, we went to dog park first. Played with ball for about half an hour, then proceeded with our walk for another half an hour. I constantly changed the direction, the second he started pulling I turned around. It was somehow managable. And then to finish it off, we went back to dog park and played again for about 20 min. I will upload a video of our yesterday's walk when daschund was around so you can see what i was talking about. I was trying to put the leash around me just to gain some control and strength. With his coach that the previous owner worked with, he didn't even notice any other dogs. And i know i am not doing this correctly, just really want to get a hand on this properly, not to cause any more stress to Jack. (I do think that i am doing that right now)


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I would use a half hitch on him, to get a little more control. Atleast until he starts to get a better idea of what is being asked of him.
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I will try this out and see how it goes. Thanky for advice.
But i have to say something else as well. The way he looks at me sometimes.... i have this feeling he's completly scaning me and taking mental notes 😂
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i have this feeling he's completly scaning me and taking mental notes 😂
Ha ha! That's a vizsla. Very human-like in their gaze.

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I will try this out and see how it goes. Thanky for advice.
But i have to say something else as well. The way he looks at me sometimes.... i have this feeling he's completly scaning me and taking mental notes 😂

He is doing exactly that!!
Many years ago when I got Gunnr, her owner too had passed away. Gunnr was with a trainer when we went up and got her. She was 11 months old at the time.
That dog did not look me in the eye for months. Not once. She would look to see where I was, glancingly, but she never looked directly at me.
Start off with him in the house, with little to no distractions, especially another dog. Put him on his leash in the house and walk him at the heel. Keep working with him free of distractions. Lots of praise for anything good, and just a non emotional correction for the not good, but always finish on the positive.
Never, ever, let any dog pull you. The moment he pulls, you mentally turn yourself into a fence post, or tree. You do not break your feet. Put yourself in a solid, weighted ,position and you just stand there, immobile. He wants to keep pulling against that collar and choke himself, let him. You do not move. He will correct himself, or stop breathing. It's up to him. This is kind of a mental game for you, but you can do it. A very small person can mentally convince1200 lbs of horse to not pull, the same can be done with a 60 lb dog.
The moment he back off a little back, you bring him back to you. You don't go to him. There should always be slack in a leash, no matter the length. Pulling is a very bad habit, that can cause injury to the handler. He's got a lot of power, and he could easily pull you off your feet, if you were unbalanced, and hurt you.
If the trainer/coach has him under control. I would work with the trainer coach for awhile, with the dog. Basically, you would be the one being "trained", so don't let your ego get involved. It's the dog that has priority.
The half hitch that Texas Red mentioned is the same technique I use, but you'll need a different leash.The leash comes off their collar, goes toward the back end, loops under the abdomen and then comes back up to your hand. It needs to be wide 25-30mm so it doesn't pinch and bind.
Stop using the collar you currently have and get a 25mm wide, leather D ring safety collar for quick leash work, and short trips.
You need a harness. Put him in the harness and attach the leash to the harness. 60% of a dogs power comes from the front end. Pick up the front end, and they can't pull. It's also easier to pull them back to you and get them in frame for the heel.
In America we have a device called a Halti Leash. It's an adaption of a bitless, or war, bridle for horses. I personally do not like them but they do work very well. I don't like them because they put the dog in an un-natrual heel position in my mind. That's just my personal opinion though.
Last resort is a choke, or pinch collar. If you are not very experienced with these collars, do not use them without guidance. You can do severe damage to a dog used incorrectly. It would be months of non compliance with other methods and collars, before you would progress to this type of collar. Some people use them straight off the bat, but some people will also shank a horse just"because".

Give things time, but do get in touch with the trainer and have them work with you and the dog.

You'll never beat a lesson into a dog, you just beat desire out.
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-01-2020, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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https://youtu.be/VO4zyKnf2zo

Still need to buy new collar and harness, but in this small town we don't have any pet shop (will do it on monday) 🙄. This is our progress in the house.
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