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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-01-2019, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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Question Vizsla: male or female?

Hello all,

After extensive research (some done in this site's pages, even!) I am ready for a Vizsla. I've been speaking with two breeders in particular, but have gotten conflicting information from them when it comes to the sex of the puppy/dog.

One breeder told me that the sex doesn't matter and the sizes/lbs will be nearly identical. They said the temperament, though, is quite different with males REALLY getting attached and females being more aloof. This breeder told me that "male Vizslas fall IN love with you and females love you." This breeder charges the same for males/females.

The other breeder told me there is definitely a difference in sizes/lbs and that the females will indeed be smaller. But they said the temperament doesn't really change and while certain puppies might show different personalities (some more keen on hunting, some more keen on social time, etc), the breed is so consistent that you shouldn't worry or concern yourself with that aspect. They charge less for males, though, as females are in higher demand (for their size, I was told).

I'd love some further info from other Vizsla owners. I'm not worried, and would be very happy with either sex, but some actual feedback would be most welcome.

Thank you!
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-01-2019, 10:16 PM
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Females are smaller, or at least they should be.

I've always had unneutered males, my breeder explained that they are big babies and at the time I didn't understand this, but now some 25 years later, it's been true. I like Big Babies. Some will say they are easier to train (generally), recall that girls in the animal kingdom have far more responsibility than the boys, so they are just more serious and "tougher" generally, although with all those characteristics that make them so uniquely Vizsla. And there's something about that which either works for you or it doesn't.

I fell in love with my first one, a boy, and just repeated it..although at first I would have taken either gender....but frankly it's the temperament of the individual that matters most, that varies widely form pup to pup and is easily discernible by about 6 weeks. So, be sure to tell your breeder as clearly as possible what you intend to do with the dog and what your specific temperament requirements are, and let him/her choose for you. Regardless of the gender, you want a pup that matches your requirements.

As an FWIW, recall that females go into heat every 9 months or so, and although I am vehemently opposed to desexing either gender...for health reasons....at the very least, if you cannot tolerate a 3 week heat for at least a couple years (The minimal time to wait for spaying), then a male might be a better choice.
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Hmm.. I'm also torn between male and female.
I get the idea that males have bigger chaps than females - is that a thing?
I think that male chaps are "longer" more "saggy".

Call me crazy but I think that the males already have "manly" faces I don't know how to describe that.

I really think that the female "faces" look more friendly and yeah.. like a female.

Is that just my imagination?

Thanks!
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-05-2019, 03:14 PM
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A good many breeders that are reputable, charge the same price for either gender. Something that small does not make a person a good, or bad breeder. The price shoukd not be set by people that want girls.
Normally the price is, the same as the stud fee.
I wouldn't expect to pay less for a limited registration puppy, or more for one with full registration either.
Yes, males are slightly larger than females, if from the same litter. They also stay in that goofy clown stage for much much longer. I found that females like you a lot, but males adore you. I have owned and loved both genders.
If you want to hunt over your Vizsla. Buy from a breeder that field trials.
I've seen some very pretty well temperamented Vizslas, that had very little drive towards hunting. If you baby them enough, you can probably get them to hunt in the field. But they would never love hunting.

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So much depends on the genetics of the pedigree.
Gunnr weighed just over 60lbs. in her prime and was right at 24" tall. She had a big build and was very strong.

Tika was usually between 50-55lbs in her prime and was about 22.5" tall.
Rush was 50lbs., give or take, and stood about 23" tall in his prime.
Silkcut was a big boy at 65-70lbs, and just at 25" tall. Built very rugged and powerful.

Boone was just over 24" tall and 60lbs in his prime years. Boone was probably the most "Vizsla looking", and the most athletic. He was a beautiful dog in all aspects.

Gunnr, a female, ranged the furthest and didn't cast back( check back in). You had to find her.
Tika a female, would not move away from your side.
All of the boys moved out, but would cast back in and out on a frequent basis.
Unless you got close enough to check, you wouldn't be able to tell the girls from the boys, from a distance.


The breed standard overlaps on size which may be why the breeders have different answers. Each breeder may be breeding for subtle characteristic differences. It's hard to tell.
Pick the puppy that appeals to you most, that you feel that special "something" about. Unless you're a breeder, their sex should be one of your least weighted variables with respect to picking a puppy.
Good luck with picking a puppy.
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I've picked my puppies.
I've picked gender, and let the breeder pick the pup. I have even just picked the litter. Then let breeder pick the pup, without me deciding on a gender.
The only thing that has stayed consistent, is me picking the litter. You want the parents to have the qualities, you hope to have in your puppy.
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With the first own one i was indifferent of the sex too, breeder picked a boy for our needs. With the second one we then decided to go for another boy for a variety of reasons. They both are big babies indeed, different personalities though, but both always want to be in the same human`s lap during snuggle times. But then again i saw that with girls too and at some point i ended up with 4 vizslas on my own lap, girls and boys! LOL.
I think that the boys both are beautiful and would not say that all females are prettier than boys. It really depends on the line.
In my opinion other than dealing with the heat cycle the sex of the vizsla should be indifferent, it comes down to temperament and upbringing possibilities. Both females and males need lots of human time.
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Hmm.. I'm also torn between male and female.
I get the idea that males have bigger chaps than females - is that a thing?
I think that male chaps are "longer" more "saggy".

Call me crazy but I think that the males already have "manly" faces I don't know how to describe that.

I really think that the female "faces" look more friendly and yeah.. like a female.

Is that just my imagination?

Thanks!

"Chaps" = Flews? They should be "Prominent yet not excessive" (nor saggy). When you look at a puppy, try to evaluate the whole look, not just one or two features, you want them to be well put together. So, a square muzzle on a fuller head with square (or more prominent) flews works well. Take the same head piece and put a tapered "Snipey" muzzle on it and it doesn't hang together as well..for either gender.

Most breeders take the time to match their "Ideal" to the dogs available for breeding, and although DNA is always a crap shoot, the offspring can be expected to look a lot like either parent, or a nice mix of them. And as long as the parents are nice looking and within the standard, you're pretty much assured of a nice looking puppy, and whatever you get, you really do get used to it and fall in love with it even before it fills out to it's adult proportions.


The best way to do this is to think a lot about the kind of dog you want..you really live with the stuff you cannot see...like the temperament and energy requirements, see that they are in synch with you and your needs and lifestyle and let the breeder make the choice for you, regardless of gender. There are more similarities than differences btwn the genders anyways, they're both Vizslas.
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Not being a long time V expert, or an expert in this field at all. We picked a male for our first V two years ago. We got very luck and found an exceptional breeder in the Chicago area who's been breeding V's for 45+ years. So we were confident about the over health, etc.

To that end, in full transparency, we did rush and were not able to really "pick" or discuss our needs for a V with the breeder. Fully our fault and not the breeders fault. Because of work demands spring through fall we wanted a V in September-December timeframe and the breeder just so happen to have a litter on the ground so we jumped at the chance (September 2017 born and pick up November). That being said, we got last pick male. Milo has been FANTASTIC in ever way, is incredibly smart and is a stud of a male. BUT he does require a ton of exercise and luckily I can bring him to work every day and he roams the 160-acre property at will. But did I say he loves to run and run and run, endlessly. Working is his main priority morning until night. He is a clinger, but not a snuggler.

Fast forward to this summer, after our beloved lab pasted away, we wanted another companion and we were pretty confident we wanted another V. So we called the breeder back up and she had another litter planned for mid summer (with the litter being a half sibling to Milo which is pretty cool). Not ideal time, but we were early to call and hence started the process much earlier working with the breeder. We wanted a female and we were very persistent on temperament. We wanted to calmest female V of the litter and she said she would have no problem helping us. There were (6) females and we spend over two hours the day of pick up working with the breeder and the 6-pups. We ended up with an incredibly lovely female who simply likes companionship, being around a lot of people and to be cuddled for hours on end. Running and exercising are second to companionship, which is a nice change from our male.

Soooooo....I apologize for getting winded. My feeling is not so much male vs female, BUT I strongly suggest working with a reputable breeder very early and discuss your top priorities on what you're looking for in a V. And be realistic with yourself. I wanted a "working" dog and with our male we found one, but at a cost which is constant need to be outside and "working". We love both our V's and wouldn't change a thing, but you need to be realistic with your goals, lifestyle, needs, etc or you'll be handcuffed with a dog that you may or may not be able to handle or be happy with......FWIW.
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