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Cesar Defends Actions, Says Incident Blown Out Of Proportion



Cesar breaks his silence on claims of animal abuse while taping an episode for Cesar 911. The famous dog trainer sticks by his methods and believes the incident is being blown out of proportion.

Last week, we told you that Cesar Millan was being investigated by Los Angeles County Animal Control over animal abuse allegations. It all stems from a clip from a recent episode of his show Cesar 911. In the clip, you can see a French Bulldog/Boston Terrier mix attack and bite a pig, resulting in a bloody ear.

The self-taught dog trainer and TV star is speaking out over claims that he used the pigs as bait for Simon, a dog who had a past of attacking pigs. Millan says the investigation and allegations are unfounded, and that opponents of his methods are blowing the incident out of proportion.

In an interview with People magazine, Cesar states that while he understands why people are upset, he says that there was no crime.

“This is what I love about America,” he said. “In America, animals have rights to a certain extent. And when somebody complains about it the law enforcement have to come and supervise. They do it to everybody and they’re doing the right thing.”

And Sandy, the owner of Simon, is also backing Cesar on the issue. She says that meeting Millan was the best thing that’s happened to her and Simon, and she’s grateful for all his help.

“I feel so blessed to have had Cesar’s help and it upsets me profoundly that people have mischaracterized what really happened,” says Sandy. “I have a brand new life with Simon and having Cesar’s help made the difference. It’s the best thing that ever happened to Simon and I.”

No charges have been laid at this time, but we’ll keep you posted on any developments.

[Source: People]

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Personally I stand with Cesar, and I find it appalling that there is even a investigation.

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I think Cesar Milan's whole method is based on very unsound (and discredited) ideas of dog behavior, especially his acceptance of "pack dominance" in dog-human interaction.

Every credible dog behaviorist rejects the premises behind his methods, and raising his name is a good way to provoke apoplexy.

As to the particular incident in question, his methods were at best stupidly ill-advised, and at worst foreseeably putting an animal in danger of injury.

IMO Milan's poor methods have set back dog training. It would be better if he were off the air.

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All righty Then...

I think Cesar absolutely has a way with dogs... I have known personally other people who could claim a similar title of "Animal Whisperer" It is
a gift, and it is AMAZING. I do not agree with everything that has come out of Cesar's teachings, But that is Human. I also have not seen Cesar with a Vizsla ( this may exist, I just have missed it) but I don't really think his methods include the Vizsla... Vizsla's are just different...
Before I got my pup 3 yrs ago, I read his latest book " How to Raise the perfect Dog" It did not pertain to a Vizsla pup at all, and was no help to me.
But then Everyone Raved about Ian Dunbar, and I found he was as off base as Cesar... how ever I did get some stuff that worked.

I Really think Cesar has a Knack, and is very beneficial to the Dog/Human relationship. Ps.. I find his work very entertaining. I just love dogs!!

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I don't see the spam. There is no product or service being promoted. There is no mention of petguide.com.

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.. I also have not seen Cesar with a Vizsla ( this may exist, I just have missed it) but I don't really think his methods include the Vizsla...
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There were 2 that I saw. The 1st was "Booker" - suffering noise anxiety, IIRC. Cesar prescribed more exercise & I vividly remember the shot of Booker racing down a sidewalk with Cesar in tow on a skateboard. The other was a fear-aggressive dog that I don't remember any more of.

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I remember one with a Vizsla named Ginger. She had some very "A" personality "owners " ( they were extremely performance driven and impatient with poor Ginger). They were annoyed that after falling into a small hole in the pavement, Ginger was terrified to go for a walk on a leash. She pulled and so very frightened! It was awful to see that because she was such a beautiful, dainty Vizsla . Cesar had to work on the couples' patience before he could even deal with Ginger's trauma. I was particularly upset when she was dozing on the sofa and seemed to want to be petted and that couple wanted to have her running around like she was some kind of robot instead of a sensitive, eager to please Vizsla :'( . They understood to a point and she was better but Cesar had to really work hard with that couple. He was kind to Ginger, very gentle.
I enjoy his show too- experts are always going to disagree.
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I also have not seen Cesar with a Vizsla ( this may exist, I just have missed it) but I don't really think his methods include the Vizsla... Vizsla's are just different...
Before I got my pup 3 yrs ago, I read his latest book " How to Raise the perfect Dog" It did not pertain to a Vizsla pup at all, and was no help to me.
But then Everyone Raved about Ian Dunbar, and I found he was as off base as Cesar... how ever I did get some stuff that worked.
I like them both... do I like 100% of their methods, no. But I have learned valuable things from both! Personally, I think Dunbar is worth reading if only to drive home how important socialization is for pups. And Cesar does often prescribe more exercise - which is so needed for most dogs these days!
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I too look at Cesar's show as just entertainment, and most of his training ways would have to be toned way down to fit a vizsla. I like all different training book and videos. Some are all positive training, and others are not, but I can usually find something in each one of them.

The point of my first post on this subject was, I didn't see what he did as being animal abuse.
While it didn't go according to plan, and the dog did nip the pigs ear. I seriously doubt the pig had any long lasting effects.

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Why are we getting spammed with Petguide.com articles, anyway?
I don't see the spam. There is no product or service being promoted. There is no mention of petguide.com.

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Well Bob, even our forum owner (harrigab) remarked that the forum was being spammed after the "was your pet a unicorn in a past life?" cut-and-paste job was posted on this forum. That thread was seemingly removed, but all these threads are lifted in their entirety from petguide.com (without attribution), are not original content, and are not Vizsla specific.

Here is the original source of the thread for those who need reminding:

http://www.petguide.com/blog/dog/top...n-a-past-life/

What's the purpose?

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