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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-16-2011, 07:32 PM
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Re: Very Aggressive Behaviour… towards People AND dogs!

Glad the visit with FIL is going well. It sounds like y'all are doing everything you can to help Coda. Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes "intensive correction" makes me a little nervous, especially with a V, because intensive might mean really harsh. Many trainers around us say they support/use "positive" training methods, but so many of them know little or have no experieince with Vizslas. They are defintely a breed of a different bird. Anyway, I hope you are able to work through this with Coda. Let us know the test results when you get them. Best wishes
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Will update as soon as we get news!
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You are not alone! Rosie has similar issues. Started around 6 months old, initially with children only, then with strange adults, and now sometimes even with other dogs. Barking, growling, lunging. It usually happens with people who are uncomfortable with dogs, or dogs who are defensive toward other dogs (she reads the body language). It happens on walks and when we have visitors or delivery people come to the house. At home, she has the same issue of being crazy for 3-4 minutes with newcomers, then calming down. We consulted a behavioral specialist a while back who evaluated Rosie's temperament and behavior and said that Rosie displays aggression because she is fearful. Instead of flight, she does the fight part of fight-or-flight when she feels threatened.

We need to schedule another visit, though, because although there has been a fair amount of improvement since the consult (we were given counterconditioning/desensitization instructions), we feel like things could still be much better.

P.S. Just wanted to add that although Rosie has never made contact with anyone when she is freaking out, and we have always made sure that she can't get close, we got threatened in our neighborhood by a guy that was surprised when Rosie barked and lurched in his direction (again, we had her under control, but it is alarming). He responded by telling us that our dog should be killed and that we should be killed for having such a monster. Really made our day.
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You are not alone! The reason i found this forum was because i googled "vizsla behavioural problems" one night after a particularly unnerving episode with a cylist. That then developed into what sounds like a similar, apparently random fear or dislike of people.

Merc was 18 months when the problems started which surprised me because i expected him to be well on the way to growing up by then - turns out he was only just starting adolescence. We also worked with a behaviourist / positive reinforcement trainer and and another 18 months on he is so much better. It has been a long hard slog but definitely worth it. I tried the "dominant alpha" thing, forcing him to sit when approached by things that frightened him etc before realising it wasn't working and I needed professional help. IMHO, positive reinforcement is the only way to be sure that you aren't making the problem worse. Yes the dog needs leadership but its all about how you do that.

Intense is the right word! Every moment you spend with a V is training - at least that was my life for the last 2 years.

Before i go on and on for hours..... Merc's behaviour in general started calming down a lot after he turned 3. So I think if you work hard with your trainer and hang in there you will end up with a wonderful dog. Good luck with the thyroid test!
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Hi, would you please update us on Coda's health, I recall reading about possible thyroid gland problems in another post.


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Hi Folks,

I apologize for the lengthy time it has taken for me to respond. This has been quite the road with Coda and we have had no new news. Until now... a little news has come.

In a nutshell, this Coda has been very aggressive towards people and dogs. No rhyme or reason to it. We had his thyroid tested (full 5 panel) and his score came back 16. The possible range from a normal thyroid is 12-50. Of course the lower being labelled a "low normal". Needless to say that Coda's breed, size, age etc should have landed him on the higher end of the normal ( my vet indicated that as well)

So we waited the three months and had him re-tested. His test came back this morning and it is even lower. He scored a 13. 1 on his T4 test. The vet is now stating that we put him on a trial on a very low dose of thyroid medication to see how he does over the next month. We are waiting to start this medication for a few weeks until his body is free of the anti anxiety medication is his currently on (apo-clomipramine ) Poor little guy.

We are hoping something positive comes of this and his behaviour changes for the better. He still is aggressive towards people and dogs (not all) but we cannot trust him and therefore still wears a muzzle when out for walks etc.

Thank you all for your thoughts and concern. When Coda gets started up on the meds I will update with any information I have.


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Thanks for the update. I hope the medicine will help. This can be a very difficult and discouraging problem to have with a dog you love.
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We’re about three weeks away from getting Nyla sterilized, putting her at the 18 month point. Likely unrelated but here I go.

A quick question. We have been noticing an increased amount of aggression in the home towards strangers. This seems to be specifically activated when someone walks down the hall behind one of us, or in some cases someone that walks out of our house carrying something. She has nipped three people to date and broken the skin on all three. Fortunately the people are friends and have been kind about the results. In all three, this was a quick nip and pull with a quick aggressive movement (then move away) Not always associated with barking either. Sometimes just a quick grab. Any suggestions relative to training so that we don’t live in fear of losing our dog to a more severe injury? She’s usually very loving and loves other dog owners and people she knows. I love my dog and don’t want to lose her. How practical would it to be to have her on an ecollar all the time?
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While I like and use ecollars. They are only to be used with already known commands. They are just a extra layer of training.
I would not use a ecollar, to try and stop a dog from biting. You would be much better off, conditioning her to a basket muzzle. That way you can work on her problem, without putting friend, and her in harm's ways.
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While I like and use ecollars. They are only to be used with already known commands. They are just a extra layer of training.
I would not use a ecollar, to try and stop a dog from biting. You would be much better off, conditioning her to a basket muzzle. That way you can work on her problem, without putting friend, and her in harm's ways.
I agree with TR on this. One of our beagles had people possession issues so we trained him with a basket muzzle and it solved a lot of his issues but gave us the piece of mind while we were working through issues with our kids being in the house. My aunt also uses one with her german shepherd because he's too protective of her and he's come a long way.
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