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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-31-2013, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
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UPDATE: Cruciate ligament - Rear leg injury advice

Literally the day before he was set to finish the antibiotics (for pneumonia) and return to the dog park little Berkeley hurt himself. He was running on the hardwood floors at my in-laws house and slide and ran into a microwave that was sitting on the floor. I wasn't there when it happened but apparently he yelped for a while (couple minutes) and then nursed it. He wouldn't put any pressure on it after the fall.

We took him to the emergency hospital and the doctor poked and prodded him but couldn't really find out where it hurt. He seemed slightly uncomfortable with his knee extended but other than that there was no pain indicators. He still wouldn't let it touch the ground. She advised us to go to our regular vet monday morning and possibly have an x-ray (which was nice because she said even if we did the x-ray that night he wouldnt have surgery or and change in treatment that weekend). She gave him some pain killers though.

So basically when he stands its up and sometimes he lets his toes touch the ground but if he puts any pressure on it he brings it back up.

After we got home today he was sleeping in his bed so I decided to feel around on his leg and try to get some sort of reaction (like his eyes opening or something), but he didnt do anything with me feeling all around (similar to last night with the DR). The Vet guessed it was in the knee but i kind of think it has to do with the hip area. She didnt feel anything out of the normal with the joints or tendons or anything.

It seems that it is either deep inside the leg and surface pressure doesnt hurt it, or the pain only happens when he puts pressure on it.

Does anyone know of any V specific things it may be?
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Re: Rear leg injury advice

Ruby sprained her hip back in November. She would put weight on it and walk, but yelped anytime she layed or sat down. There was also significant swelling over her hip on her lower back . Our vet treated her with a cortisone shot to bring down the inflammation and she was on crate rest for 10 days. The swelling took a month to go away completely.

Sounds like your guy definitely needs an xray. Do you notice any swelling anywhere? The fact that he won't put weight on his leg leads me to believe it's more serious than a sprain.

Keep us updated. Have you checked his paw on the effected leg to see if that's where the pain is coming from?
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I doubt that what ever your pup has done is Vizsla specific.

Have you checked out his toes, very gently to see whether he react to you moving or applying gentle pressure to them?

The other thing to consider is soft tissue and or bone bruising. Dogs do not have much flesh on their legs and especially pups, so it is very possible that if he hit something it has caused deep bruising. You obviously need to get him x-rayed to rule out any fractures.

Hope he is better soon.
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Re: Rear leg injury advice

Our Ellie had a very similar situation when she was around 4 months old. Her best playmate crashed into her rear leg when they were both at high speed. He has a head like a concrete block. She could not put any weight on the leg and that night was panting, shaking and moaning in discomfort. We could not feel that anything was broken, but took her straight to the vet in the morning. The leg showed no signs of pain when manipulated. The vet was about to give up when she finally got a pain response toward the hip. We were given an anti-inflamatory/pain med scrip and told one full week of rest, mostly crated. After a four hour crate nap and one pain pill, she was putting weight back on the leg.

She was hard to contain after the third day because she felt so much better. We finally gave in and started gradually walking her around a bit after day four, but kept her calm and continued meds. Full recovery, no problems since. The vet says they see soft tissue or bruising type injuries like this all of the time. If after 7 days she was not better, they would have then ordered Xrays. Good luck and hope your pup is better soon, I know I was freaking out.
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We will be bringing him in at 8am when the vet opens tomorrow morning.

There isn't any visible swelling. His paw looks normal and there is no reaction when I poked around. That's the odd thing, there is no reaction anywhere.

He definitely doesn't like to lay on that side though.

A deep bone bruise makes sense. Or I suppose a bone chip too. I feel like if it was a break or fracture the vet would have been able to elicit some kind of pain. Hopefully it doesn't require surgery but im sure the vet will recommend an x-ray tomorrow morning.
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Our Ellie had a very similar situation . . . . If after 7 days she was not better, they would have then ordered Xrays. Good luck and hope your pup is better soon, I know I was freaking out.
Yeah, especially after we had to leave him overnight in the hospital a couple weeks ago. I could only imagine what it's like having a kid!

The emergency vet prescribed Tramadol for pain, starting with a whole 50mg tablet every 8 hours but we ended up only giving him 1/2 every 8 hours so far since he doesn't visible appear to be in pain. If anything he just looks like he is being lazy, fully aware of everything just not the madhouse he usually is. I wouldnt describe it as lethargic, which is probably a good thing.

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Ellie was given Rimadyl 75mg once daily which is mostly anti inflammatory which in turn helps with pain. They gave me larger quantity than needed and said they were good to have around for typical crazy puppy injuries like this. I have used it maybe twice since then just as a precaution when we had additional rough play accidents.

Our breeder also told me that her rule is that if there is not an apparent break, she puts the dog on total crate rest for 72 hours and if that does not cure the problem, then heads to the vet.

I cannot imagine having to leave the puppy in the hospital overnight. I would be in need of meds as well ???. We do not have kids either and also cannot imagine what it is like when a little one is injured or sick.
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Re: Rear leg injury advice

It kind if seems like the issue is in his ankle area. When he was standing up eating I gently held his right hip and he transferred some weight to it so I'm pretty sure it's not in the hip or knee.

Then I put my hand under the foot and when it touched he pulled it up higher, same with the ankle. His major tendons in the area feel fine and again he doesn't squirm while he is laying. Only while standing, but I didn't press hard at all so it must be very sensitive.

Any ideas of problems in the ankle area? I tried searching the net for some info and most things come back relating to the knee.
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Do an x-ray from hip to toe just to be sure everything is checked.

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I have learned over the years that my regular vet can take good xrays, but the orthopedic vet takes better ones.
In a effort to keep my dog from being put under twice and save a little money, I have the specialist do the xrays.
I just have my vet give me a referral.

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