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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-28-2011, 11:31 AM Thread Starter
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Seizure

Has anyone's v had a seizure? Dozer had a true blue seizure the morning after Xmas while running around the yard with his weim cousin. His bloodwork came back normal so hopefully it was a one off from holiday over stimulation but this is also the age in which epilepsy presents itself. It was one of worst things I've ever seen in my life and I hope he never goes through that again so I'm just wondering if anyone else has any experience with seizures. There wasn't really any other posts about them. Breeder said they're not in his bloodline so we're hoping for the best. It breaks my heart everytime I look at him as it was a full body seizure. Thanks for any input.
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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-28-2011, 12:37 PM
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My beagle was an epileptic, when she started you had to pry her mouth open and take you thumb and press her tounge down and it would open her airways enough to get back to normal....was scary!!! i can only imagine if it happend while i wasn't around.

...he was worth the wait as are all good things
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Hi, our Viz has has many seizures. They have not been grand mal but still they are unpleasant to see. Our vet have given us some drugs that help end the fit if it lasts longer than 3 minutes (3 mins is key). The first thing is to keep a diary of the fits and what happened around the time (type of walks, food eaten, treats etc...). The fits can be far apart and it helps highlight trends. I'll not go on too long unless you want me too. In the end we were getting fits six weeks apart but we changed her food from one that contained pork and went over two year before the next fit. That said, we had another in August but none since.

I hope this starts to help but if you want to know more about our experience then please ask.

We are in Leeds, UK but I am not sure if your Steel City us Sheffield or Pittsburgh.

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post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-28-2011, 01:23 PM
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Epilepsy is not all that uncommon in our breed according to one of the founding Vizsla rescue members in the West. She has seen her share over the years.

A friend has a great Vizsla that has had seizures from over stimulation. The last time was last spring at a horseback field trial. The dog ran about 15 minutes of the 30 minute brace and had a full on seizure mid-course. It was tough to see. The owner does her best to keep the over stimulation to a minimum while still giving her Vizsla a full active life.

I'd do more research on the lines. Go back five generations yourself. Ask questions of the parent club or regional club in the area if they know the lines.

So sad. At least there are medications. Let us know what you find out. I'll ask around for more information for you and send it to you via PMl.

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Steel city refers to pittsburgh, although we currently reside in VA. I'm just trying to get a grasp of whether anyone is dealing with epilepsy or whether their dog had a one time seizure. I know in the end only time will tell fir us. The hardest part right now is the fact that he's home alone 9 hours a day with me returning in the middle to check on him. So we have no clue whether it's really the first or what happens when we're not there.

Looney- I was wondering about his tongue but we were told to keep our hands away so we don't get bitten during and I can tell you he was ready to bite immediately after. He had no clue he was looking right at us when it was over, growling, defensive for about 20 sec before he snapped out of it. The gagging worried me but I can definately see the danger of putting my fingers in his mouth. Either way I'm not sure I could have pried it open.

Thanks for the responses so far.
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We had about 18mths between the first and the second fit. Now we are used to it and although the fit isn't nice it is just life. The Viz knows nothing about it and doesn't remember it. We are also both full time workers so have the same issue and it was a big worry of ours at the start. The vet reassured us it was highly unlikely when she was on her own but I cannot remember the scientific reasons why.

It does go without saying to chat with your vet because they will help you decide the size/scale of fit and any advice on what to do. The drugs we have are Diazepam tubes; they help end the fit if you are worried and reduce the likelihood of a repeat in the short term.

I hope it goes ok going forward but I would recommend the diary, especially around food, but it is luck if you can isolate a trigger.
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post #7 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-30-2011, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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Dozer had his second seizure tonight. It's interesting bec I was out in the yard letting him run yard since I got home early and then we came in and were playing when it happened. He decided he didn't want the toy, started running around in circles with a high pitched bark and that's when I realized it was coming. He sought out my partner in the floor, leaned against him, then back legs twitching, peed a little, seeming scared before the flight and barking started again, lost bowels, more twitching. Hard to tell the beginning and end. So cluster focal seizures this time. Post ictal is lasting forever. He's disoriented and not himself and it's been hours. First time was minutes. I guess this means meds. It's horrible not being able to explain to him what's happening and not get the wiggle butt every time I say his name. And what if we have a V that seizes every time we get highly active? Wouldn't that be something...
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A total of four have occurred in 24 hours so we spent our early afternoon in the emergency clinic. His seizures involve an attempt at flight combined with high pitched barking and and another interesting sound that I can't really describe. While seizing he attempted to escape the house via doors and windows and tried to jump the fence. Also tried to hide behind the couch. He hasn't been the same dog since before the first one but he's on meds so hopefully they control the seizures and we can get our Dozer back.
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you and Dozer!
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SteelCityDozer -- Oh, I am so sorry you and your Dozer are having to experience this! It sounds just awful, and heartbreaking. Will say a prayer for Dozer... Poor little guy!

My best friend once had a beautiful female German Shepherd named Sugar who developed epilepsy. For Sugar, the trigger was always a thunderstorm. From what I understand, great advances have been made with the medications currently in use. Best of luck with Dozer. Do keep us posted.

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