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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 04-01-2017, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
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Hereditary Health Issues

I'm posting this information to help folks make an informative decision when choosing a breeder. Our dog, Gatsby, is from Teal's Vizslas. Sire is Teal's Milo SR42982801 and dam is Teal's Cal's Lil Cali 2 SR51285802. Born 6/16/15.

He has leg deformities that became apparent as he grew. We took him to a specialized vet and this was his diagnosis:

"Retained cartilage cores multiple metaphyseal areas, both front legs. The dog is noticeably small for its breed and age. Mild carpal varus, bilaterally. The distal radius is enlarged bilaterally. Radiographs revealed radiolucent areas in the metaphyseal area of the distal radius and ulna, in the proximalradius, and proximal humerus. The distal metaphyseal growth plate of the ulna appears closed and that of the radius not as wide as expected at this age." He wrote, "There is no effective surgical treatment. The dog does not appear to be in any pain at this time and is compensating well despite the skeletal abnormalities."

We contacted the breeder for information and we've had little to no response. We asked for a partial refund to help with the medical bills and they have not responded. I've since learned of three other people with puppies with similar leg deformities from the same blood lines.

There are others who have had good experiences with this breeder. My intent is only to share my experience and to help others in their choice of breeder.
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Thank you so much for sharing!!
Our dogs are from Braemar's Rose Vizslas near Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Not sure if they'd share any of the Teal's lines. Our older boy, Nico, has no sign of this (nor do any of the other dogs we know from our breeder), but I've noticed that our second pup Sam has funny looking front legs and I have been wondering if he'll have a "deformity" of this nature. I know I had seen something about it on the forums before but couldn't remember what it was called. If nothing else, you've saved us vet bills in going in to get a diagnosis! I think the main thing is that as long as he's not showing any signs of pain and can keep up well enough with his big brother we won't worry about it
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I'm so sorry. Thankfully he is not in pain.
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Hi,
I'm sorry to hear Sam has leg problems too. Thankfully there doesn't seem to be any pain associated with the deformity. Best wishes to you!
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Thank you Gatsby for posting the information. I know we have had other forum members, have a problem with Teal's.
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I'm sorry to hear Sam has leg problems too. Thankfully there doesn't seem to be any pain associated with the deformity. Best wishes to you!

Thank you! I've noticed it's not as pronounced as it was before, I tried to take a photo but it doesn't really show anymore. Before his upper-legs were bowed outward, his lower legs had abnormally large bones, and his toes were out-turned, but as he's growing it seems to be getting less noticeable. Perhaps this is a good sign!

All the best for you and Gatsby
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I can’t believe what I’m seeing! My Vizsla was born 6/16/15 as well and we got him from Teal Vizsla. He has already had a leg corrective surgery on his back right leg. That was about $5,000. We honestly thought it was just bad luck but reading more about the breeder, it makes me angry bc they’re selling these puppies with so many issues. We fell in love with him so there’s nothing more to do other than have him get the surgery so he’s not in pain. Today, I took him to the vet again because I noticed some limping and the conclusion was that he now has mild hip displacia. At this point, from what I’ve read, there’s no point on contacting the breeder but again, this is so upsetting. We have puppies from the same litter with all sorts of issues. Who knows how much this surgery will cost but definitely no way around it. We love our guy so much, we’re willing to do anything. I hope yours doesn’t end up having more issues though. So crazy to find someone that has a puppy from the same litter ours is!
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I am very sorry to see these posts, and just hope this breeder will stand up to the issue.
Out of curiosity, have any of you contacted your local AKC (vizsla section) of recommendation before choosing a breeder? Also have you provided feedback to them? In our area that process and monitoring seems to work well.
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I know they have sold 3 pups with dwarfism, and 2 with hip dysplasia.
Possibly more, but those are the ones I have personal knowledge of.
Out of the 5 dogs, only one owner was able to get part of the purchase price refunded. That only happened after they threaten to take them to court.

Two of the dogs with dwarfism, didn't appear to be in any pain. The third was rehomed, and I don't have any information on her after the rehome. Her previous owners do not want their name to be associated with her. Two of the pups with dwarfism are from different litters, but same parents. The 3rd is a full sibling to Teals Milo.

One of the dogs with hip dysplasia, had to have hip replacement surgery on both hips. I don't know if corrective measures were ever taken on the second one.

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Sorry you're going through this @MariM.

Gabica, a quick google search now shows that Teal's website it down and they have a poor, (though not poor enough) rating with BBB. Hopefully they're not currently breeding, but I've seen other breeders, including one in Texas, list Teal dogs on their sites.
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