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post #141 of 146 (permalink) Old 07-19-2018, 06:10 PM Thread Starter
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My old vet, that retired a few years back was the same way. Unless the spay surgery was tough on the dog (complications), she would not send home pain meds.
Ive found they only need the pain meds the first two days. After that, they act fine without them.

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post #142 of 146 (permalink) Old 07-20-2018, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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been there a few times over the years with various dogs TR, you always miss them, but after a while the grief does turn a corner and you're able to shift the grief to smiles remembering the times you spent together.
Even though it has been over 2 years, I'm still waiting for that time.
Lucy's sister Kinzie joined her this week, after being diagnose with cancer.
Her and Lucy we're a lot a like in temperament, and looks.

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I'm So Sorry TR.... It makes you wonder what was the bad seed part of that litter???
And as far as Grief.... all the time in the world can pass by, and that pain is still like a "Valyrian steel" dagger in your heart when it comes back and stabs you...
Sure We all go on, but the physical absence ... NEVER goes away!! Dulls.... but never goes away!!

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I have no idea.
You can go back over 20 years, and there was not a known problem in the bloodline.
It's also hard to rule out environment. We never know what was put on our yards, and fields many years ago.
Neither parent developed cancer. So if its gentic, it started with that breeding.
They still don't consider the type of cancer Lucy had to be gentic, but couldn't 100% rule it out.
I didn't ask what type of cancer Kinzie had. When she was diagnosed, she was only given weeks to live. A small spot appeared on her ear. The same week, the lymph node on her neck become the size of a soft ball. I think they had 3 weeks with her. I didnt want to ask a lot of questions while they were grieving.

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post #145 of 146 (permalink) Old 07-31-2018, 08:56 PM
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Spay complete

Finishing the story, Stella made it through the spay despite moaning in pain the first night. After the vet explained that keeping an ovary would do her no good as she'd already had 4 heat cycles (they apparently do lots of ovary sparing spays); he recommended they take it all (ovaries, uterus& cervix) and we acquiesced. I was quite worried she had early pyometra (presented vet w/tissue w/droplet of green drop of pus I'd caught emanating from her).

We probably would have kept her intact longer but we foolishly did not effectively prevent our Neutered GSD from tieing on her a couple of times. Certainly have a new respect for breeders; I now realize why her breeder used artificial insemination. I didn't understand the canine uterus and Pyo. The vet confirmed she had enlarged uterus although as she was 3wks post heat so she couldn't rule out that as the cause.

In retrospect, perhaps we should have spayed her before she reached 2yrs 3mos as this was REALLY traumatizing for her; previous bitches we'd had spayed were always under 4 mos old.

I've never seen a dog "cry" but there were large tears rolling from her cheeks when I picked her up. She seemed to know what we'd done and she was crushed. Her breathing was racked with pain for 24-36hrs as the vet sent her home with nothing. We treated her and the vet gave her some DermaMax next day.

Spent last 2weeks rebuilding her confidence & getting her over the trauma. Put her on Bactrim as she's had some incontinence which seems to be responding to it. It's a brutal procedure; my husband (doc) pointed out that as ovaries are right next to bladder (and other organs) complications in dissecting the uterine horns away can occur. We removed her stitches ourselves so she didn't have to return to vet to minimize trauma.

She's back out in the field (& creeks) now and seems healed but it will probably be the worst experience of her otherwise blissful life. I. Hoping in 2-3 months she won't remember it....
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Awe, so glad she is back to herself.
With the fosters I've had spayed, they only needed tramadol for the first 24-48 hours.
It seems like the first night is always the worst, and dogs can act differently coming off the anesthesia. June always has a wild look to her eyes after anesthesia, and not quite herself for a few hours after coming home.

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