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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-28-2013, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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When to neuter

Hoping to hear input on when to neuter. I haven't seen posts since 2011. Wondering what current philosophy is. Our breeder recommended no earlier than 18 months. This is our first V. But not first male dog. We have neutered based on our vets recommendation at 6 mos. Our V is primarily a companion house dog. May hunt occasionally.
Our Blaze is just 9wks old and a gem of a pup! I'm wanting to hear pros and cons. Marking etc.
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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-29-2013, 02:29 AM
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Re: When to neuter

We did Miles at 14 months but now that we are better and more experienced dog owners we are aiming for 18 months for Chase. Had we not decided to live in a populated community I likely would not have done it at all.

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Re: When to neuter

http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/search?q=spay

Six articles I posted on spay and neuter. There is more recent data, but I think the Dr. Becker video that Organicthoughts posted is the most recent I have seen.

18 months minimum for a healthy adult Vizsla. The physical and psychological studies show this. Hard to wait in this PETA and HSUS controlled animal rights country of ours. Unless you are letting your male roam the streets unattended then there is no reason really to hurry.

Happy trails and trials with your pup. Get out and hunt when he is old enough (not too early). He will love you more than you can guess.

Good book published recently about dog's health and longevity, that also is an enjoyable read is "Pukka's Promise".

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Re: When to neuter

I didn't neuter my male till he was 3 years old, and to this day he has never marked in my house.

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Wilson is 14 months, unneutered. I don't plan on neutering him until he's much much older... to diminish prostate risk at a TBD time.

We actually had a neuter appointment scheduled for him at 11 months. We decided not to neuter because:
he's the friendliest dog known to man
he's never marked inside the house and shows no intention of doing it
doesn't hump anything
he proved that he has an excellent nose for hunting and we don't want to discourage that

he's primarily a house / companion dog and he's got the best disposition. At the end of the day, I didn't want to risk putting him under for a surgery that he doesn't need. I wouldn't do that to my husband, myself, or my child... why my dog?

We have gotten a lot of push back from other people who don't understand why we won't neuter him. It's annoying (esp since we depend on our dog walker who is a big proponent of neutering), but because we have none of the aggression/marking issues, it's hard for her to make a case for neuter. I also want to note that a lot of people claim that neuter will change those behaviors - I have also heard 1001 times over that neuter won't do anything if your dog is aggressive/marker, etc... once those traits are displayed.

The biggest pro to not neutering your pup is that Wilson is also much more filled out than most other vizslas we see. Our friend has a pair of vizslas that were neutered before 1 and they are tall and lanky. We get lots of compliments on how healthy and manly Wilson is starting to look. He's really filling out and deepening in the chest. I'm thrilled that he's getting to grow and develop the way he was intended to.

Finally, I find it really odd that we live in a society where people brag (yes BRAG) that their male dogs still pee like girls. Is that really a good thing?!?! Evidently, yes. This is a totally tangential comment, but that helped steer me towards the direction of not-neutering Wilson. Frankly, I got tired of hearing from everyone about how we SHOULD do it without any reasons as to WHY its beneficial or necessary.

Good luck with whatever you decide. These are just my 2 cents!
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We did Miles at 14 months but now that we are better and more experienced dog owners we are aiming for 18 months for Chase. Had we not decided to live in a populated community I likely would not have done it at all.
Amen MilesMom. We live in town and this has been a big issue for us. I really had to decide if this was a "battle" I wanted to fight or not. Luckily, our trainer was supportive and our walker is dealing with it (she's not entirely happy about it, but she's dealing). That said, we don't have a yard so we never leave Wilson out alone by himself.... our house is such that there's no way for him to "get out" without being under our direct control or supervision.
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Re: When to neuter

Our vet said to wait 2 years so that they have enough time with testosterone in their system to fully develop their muscles. She said this would help prevent hip & joint problems later in life because they will be stronger.

That said, don't wait too long, we have an old dachshund and we never neutered him (house dog). At age 10 he started having major prostate problems which would have been prevented by neutering him earlier. He's almost 14 now and we did work through the problems. But it was scary
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When to neuter

I have an intact 13 month old boy. I plan to wait a few more months to neuter as well. As Miles mom said, I also live in a populated city so it doesn't come with out some difficulties. Most daycares/boarding won't take intact males and of course there's always people who give me a really hard time about it.

Interestingly I just discovered that my pet insurance has a section stating that if a pet is not neutered by 1 year of age they will not cover any prostate or hormonal related issues that arise for the rest of their lives.
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Re: When to neuter

Ideally never. Minimum 18 months. Or if there is some preexisting condition that would make him prone to cancer.
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post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 12-30-2013, 12:10 PM
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Re: When to neuter

Unless there are problems, I am planning on NOT neutering my baby. I don't care what the vets or other people say; there is a scientific evidence to support the harm effects of neutering/ spaying. Furthermore, according to my contract, I am not to neuter my V. until he is two years old. I use this contract to keep the vets away. Or I simply tell people that I am planning on competing with him and thus need to keep him intact.
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