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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-22-2013, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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Cancelled litter/importing

Well today I got the disappointing news that my WHV to be will not be. The breeding is cancelled as my breeder's friend who was going to whelp the litter has some health issues to deal with. There aren't any other breeders with unsold/future litters she feels comfortable referring us to, so she contacted Zoldmali kennels in Hungary to work on importing puppies for those of us who are interested. Zoldmali is one of the best kennels for wirehairs and my breeder's connection to them is one of the main reasons I chose her. I don't think I'm guaranteed a spot yet, but if it works out I'll end up getting my V earlier and from the very best Hungary has to offer. Not so bad for a silver lining. This is my first experience with breeders, but I'm impressed with how hard she's working to find me a quality dog when she could just return the deposit and be done with it.

I know a few of you have imported dogs, but has anyone had a planned breeding cancelled? With all the threads about puppy buying and breeders lately, I think this is an interesting scenario to discuss.
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post #2 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-23-2013, 02:42 AM
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Just a small thought...
Our Hungarian friend who is a vet,says a good pup is rarely sold out of the country :-( It's no garantee of quality just because it comes from Hungary.
Sorry to be negative.
On the up side,if you only want a companion, I've heard good reports on imported dogs that have come into the UK.
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If she has faith in her breeder I wouldn't be worried.
If they referr or import for a client, they are putting their on name on the line.
I would just be concerned about the summer heat.
With good reason, most airlines won't fly animals when the temps rise over a certain degree.

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I have a friend here in Texas who has a Zoldmali import. I assure you that nice dogs are indeed exported.



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I appreciate the warning, Vida, but some of the top breeders in the US and UK for wirehaired v's have imported from zoldmali and their dogs routinely win in the ring and in the field. I still don't like the idea of a puppy on a trans-Atlantic flight, but my other options are to wait another year or longer for a suitable litter or reconsider getting a smooth vizsla. Not the worst options, but also not ideal. Someone is trying to teach me patience.

The summer heat isn't something I'd thought about though. :-\ I'll be sure to ask Zsofi about it when she contacts me. Thanks TR.



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DixiesMom, do you know the sire and dam of your friend's dog? Just curious.
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Just a small thought...
Our Hungarian friend who is a vet,says a good pup is rarely sold out of the country :-( It's no garantee of quality just because it comes from Hungary.
Sorry to be negative.
On the up side,if you only want a companion, I've heard good reports on imported dogs that have come into the UK.
No guarantee at all Vida, just NEW bloodlines.......

Same old same old doesn't mean quality either.....

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Ok so y'all think I was bitching make that post :-\, but just for the sake of healthy discussion....
Please read again your posts/ thread 'how to choose a breeder'.
All the advice we give is blown out the water when we advocate buying a pup 'blind' through a third party?!
Yes I would import but only if I could do my research in that country,visit the breeder,see the dam, plus all the recommended investigations that I would do if I were buying a pup locally.
Importing has become straightforward especially here in europe.
As long as we ( outside Hungary)breed dogs that are sound ,true to type,and have a low breeding coefficient they are no less of a vizsla than one born in Budapest.
Thoughts????

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I really did appreciate your thought and rereading my post, it could sound a bit naive/rosy-eyed, "OMG, my breeder is pulling a bait and switch scheme with a random Hungarian breeder. Isn't it great!?" I'm not as happy about the situation as I seemed. I had just heard the news and was trying to stay positive in light of the possibility that I wouldn't be getting a dog after all. My breeder only has one litter a year and won't have any next year. Anyway, so I appreciate your healthy dose of reality to make sure I'm thinking critically.

I also didn't mean to imply that these were quality dogs because they're from Hungary, though unlike with Vizslas, quality WHVs can be hard to come by in the States. I know these to be quality outside of my breeder's word alone. That doesn't mean all the good advice about selecting breeders goes out the window, very much the opposite, but there are some unique aspects to my situation and to the WHV. For the sake of guest readers I can comment more on those later. I don't think this needs to become a defense of this breeder, but I can list the steps I take.

Enough talk about a dog I don't have for now. Off to the woods with the one I do.




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You are so polite, Einspeinner. I read your post and thought how wonderful it was that you were being set up with a first class breeder. It sounded as if you were already aware of the breeder and their excellence.

There are several breeders who I know enough about that I would trust sight unseen. I would say they are rare, but a good/great breeder's reputation can precede him/her. Most of the breeders we looked at were "small time." Maybe some in the area knew about them, but I certainly didn't. I had to check them out from scratch and utilize smart buying practices.

If I had seen a certain line of dogs referred to repetitively in a positive light, admired that line's performance, knew people who purchased from them, etc. I think a lot of prep work is already done.
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