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post #1 of 63 (permalink) Old 05-30-2012, 06:25 AM Thread Starter
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Need help! First heat?!

Hi all! Today we got a real shock! Elza is not even 7 months old but she seems to be having her first season. ???
It's been a while since I had my last dog in season so I need some advice on how long it will last and when do we have to be careful not to let her out.
Couldn't have come at a worse time... :-\
We will be on holiday in two weeks and I'm just hoping it will be done by then...
We texted our breeder but she hasn't replied yet, we might call her later just to find out when was Elza's mother's first season.

Does this mean she will mature early? Will she behave differently in the next few weeks? I know she might get snappy around other dogs at the beginning... Until today we had no indication she's coming to season.

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http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/2009/...explained.html

Hope this is of some assistance. Good luck.

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You need to know where she is 24/7. Don't let her exercise in a fenced area without you being present. Every male dog in your area will know she is in heat, so there is no reason to take chances. Some females have even tried to escape their yards when they are ready to stand to a stud.
I had 3 intact females and one intact male in the house before he was neutered. I just keep them separated until positively sure the cycle was over. I even invested in a outdoor run with concrete floor and a welded wire top. I didn't want mine breeding and I surly didn't want to breed with a dog that dug under my fence.

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Congratulations - I think? . My Luna just started her first heat Monday May 28. She's 2 weeks shy of her 1st birthday. It hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be (yet?). She won't wear the bloomers (she chews them off) but she isn't really bleeding much so we just keep her limited to certain areas and have covered every surface she frequents - not the hardwood floors but her bed, sofa, chairs etc.

The hardest part has been not letting her out in the fenced in yard alone without us out there. We have 2 v's (the other is a neutered male) and they love to play together in the yard. Neither are jumpers and it was nice to sometimes just let them run wild and watch from a window inside. We can't do that now. So far she has not tried to escape nor have any male dogs come around but it's only been a couple of days and apparently she's not exactly fertile yet (even though we're not taking any chances).

This is our first experience with a female dog in heat. We plan to have her spayed once the vet says she's ready. I know you have to wait a few months after the heat cycle to make sure there's no residual hormones/swelling.

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Riley just started bleeding yesterday! We thought she went through her first heat without bleeding, but I guess she was swollen for a long time. She was very moody at first. Now she is very needy and clingy. The poor neighbor dogs are going nuts (most are male - fixed, thankfully) and she's been flirting with them at the fence. We keep a very close eye on her when she goes outside. Our breeder says to keep the females isolated for 30 days (from day 1 of bleeding) to guarantee you will not end up with an unwanted pregnancy.


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Thanks for the replies so far.

RBD yes that did help a bit, right now I'm a bit stressed about this situation. I think she's way to young for it. But hey I can't change it no matter what.
We leave in a flat on the 3rd floor so I don't have to worry about unwanted males turning up in the garden but that also means Elza has to go outside somehow to do her business. Never mind the exercise. :-[
We will not spay her until she's fully grown but don't want any accident puppies either.

Seems like its that time of the year when many bitches having their season coming on. Met with a V in the park just yesterday and the owner told me she's having hers too. ???

Any more suggestions on how long will last would be much appreciated. :-\

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Little update on Elza.

This is her 3-4th day in heat. She seems a bit different than usual. She barks a lot actually which normally she doesn't do and also sleeps a lot. She still need the excercise; we went to the woods today and let her off leash a bit for some run time and put her back on it if there was a dog near by. Surprisingly she didn't protest as she normally would.

I'm a bit puzzled, we met 5 dogs in total and none of them gave any indication that they interested in Elza. It's good for us but also makes me wonder why... They didn't even sniffed at her.
Yesterday she didn't bleed at all, today she had a few spots on her pillow and that's it.
Does any of you noticed the same? When will it get stronger?

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Elza, I don't think they give off that "come hither" scent until next week.

Luna is on day 5 and no neighborhood dogs have been sniffing around the fence yet. Though he's neutered, our male V isn't very interested in her "in that way" either, and I have heard he would be (even though nothing can happen, I have heard he will likely still try to hump her). So, I'm guessing that will happen next week too.

Luna stopped bleeding 2 days ago I think and even before then didn't bleed much. I think she kept herself pretty clean with licking.

She is definitely out of it though and much more tired than usual.
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How are the girls doing in heat?
Elza is a nightmare! Although she sleeps a lot she still requires a lot of exercise which she cannot have. Off leash walks now off limit, she gets her walk but protests against the leash every time. Try to chew it to get some free run. ???
Surprisingly other dogs still don't seem to be too bothered about her. This is her 10th day and the blood still dark.

Any difference in your Vs? :

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Riley is on day 9 and she has started barking like a crazed lunatic at all the neighbor dogs (through the fence) every time she is let out. Oh, and her recall has gone from 90% to about 50%. We haven't ever had to physically drag her back in the house, but I've been tempted.... haha! She still has a super sweet temperament. I'm loving all the neediness! She was getting very independent for a while. Now she's back to wanting cuddles and snuggles when she's tired. <3 We've started buying bully sticks in bulk from Costco. She goes through 1 per day because she isn't getting any off-leash hikes. I think it's definitely helped to keep her occupied.

The blood is still dark for her as well. I've been watching very closely and the color hasn't changed yet. I've noticed her nipples have gotten very swollen over the past few days and she's started putting her tail to the side when we scratch her rear ("flagging"?), so I think she's very close to her "fertile" time.

I just found this link online for the canine estrous cycle and it was very informative!

http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/eiltslotus...mal_canine.htm

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