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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-18-2019, 07:29 AM Thread Starter
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Broken Toe Nail

Hope you're all well? I've been checking in, lurking, but not posting....very busy the past few months.

Maggie, or Margaret when she is bold, so most of the time then 😁, is doing well. She's now 11 months old. Still can't be left alone for more than 40 - 60 minutes....but we're getting there.
Yesterday morning, we noticed that she had broken her toenail, so off the vets, sedation, toenail removed, and bandaged up. The bandage she managed to take off this morning, Monday, so back to the vets for another one. No off leash runs for the next few days, but she doesn't seem to be that bothered by it. we put a boot on to help her keep it dry and clean, quite funny seeing her walking around with one shoe, but I suppose now we've gotten her used to wearing boots, so should be handy for when winter really kicks in. it doesn't really get that cold or snowy here, but it can often be mucky.

I had some job this morning stopping her from running after the squirrels in the park, while we were out for a walk.

She's booked in for spaying in 3 weeks time, we've left it as long as possible, but as we're going away for Christmas, we wanted to do it before then, just in case she goes into heat while we're away, it also means I can take the time off work to stay home. The vet suggested that there was no need to take time off work, as long as she was not left for longer than a couple of hours at a time....oh how we laughed.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-18-2019, 09:40 AM
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... toenail removed ...
Do you mean that it was removed back into the pad, including the toenail bone, like a cat's de-clawing? Or just cut back to remove the broken part? I haven't heard of total removal and I'm wondering how common it is?
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Unless it's broken that high up, vets have always just cut off what needed to be, and left the rest on mine.
For ones that like to chew bandages, it's tough to keep them away from feet. Not sure how big a cone would have to be, to stop that.
I've used a donut collar, and cone combo to slow them down. I think June had her bandage replaced a few times. Shine could care less when her foot is bandaged. She just tries to fly, and leave around on three legs. That's even when you have her on a leash.

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They took the actual nail off, leaving the quick exposed. They expect that the quick should be ok by Wednesday morning as it will have enough 'cover' on it to not bleed and not be so sensitive. However, they have said that they will want to review as the nail grows back in, so that they can see if it might need further treatment. Sometimes it grows back very crooked/brittle, and in that case, they remove the whole nail cover again, but they said in 75% of dogs, there is no further treatment required.

She seems quite happy today....yesterday she was flinching, and holding the paw up. Today, she's bombing around the house in her boot. the boot is only to keep the bandage clean and dry. Vet says the bandages can come off tomorrow evening, and if she is in mud, just to dip her paw into a solution of some anti bac lotion they gave us, and warm water.

The quick looks pretty straight to me, and the vet, so I think she's unlikely to need further treatment, as long as we can keep her 'calm' for the next 24 hours, so she doesn't bang it and cause bleeding.

I think they will only declaw it as a last resort. if it's very twisted, or so brittle that it is breaking all the time. They're pretty confident that she's not going to need that though. They didn't really get into the details other than they want to review as it grows back in.

I think it happened because her nails were too long, she's started to object to having her nails cut back at the groomers in daycare, (we were having it done every 2 weeks). The daycare owner was away, so now that she's back, she'll take the nail clipping back over again so we can get back to normal. Vets clipped back all the nails yesterday while she was sedated, and when she is being spayed, we'll get them done again, so that groomers have some time to work with her on accepting the nail work, without her actually needing it to be done. Hopefully turn it back into something positive. Weird, she didn't have any objections to it until a few weeks ago...may have been because the woman who owns the daycare wasn't there to do it, and the groomers didn't want to push it and turn it into 'something' unnecessarily.
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we were considering investing in a donut for the spaying, but decided instead to go for the surgical recovery suit. Seems to make more sense. Maggie is a voracious chewer, voracious, but she's happy to wear her sweater and coats, so the suit should pose less of a problem, I hope.
So far so good with the boot, she's pretty much leaving that alone as long as she has something else to chew. Several times during last night I had to tell her no when I could hear her chomping at the bandage/boot. But this morning, she managed to get it off. Hoping that she keeps this one on until at least tomorrow morning.

the boot is more so that we can take her out, as it's waterproof.
She did break it pretty high up, there was very little nail left, and a lot of nail quick. She however was not happy at the sedation injection...she was looking at us, "how could you?".....husband was nearly in tears. After the spaying, this had better be it for vets for this year!
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They took the actual nail off, leaving the quick exposed. ...
Oh, that gives me the shivers ... knowing how they react to just nipping the quick during a nail trim.


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She seems quite happy today....yesterday she was flinching, and holding the paw up. Today, she's bombing around the house in her boot. ...
They are amazing in their ability to handle this stuff.
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I've just used a IV bag from the vets, to keep the bandage dry when outside. Cut the top off it, and made slits to run gauze through to keep it on.

I bought a really nice cone from the vets last week.
I can't remember the brand name, and it's at a fosters house right now. With as much stuff as Shine gets into, figured it's not a bad idea to keep one on hand. She's the kinda dog that does not learn, from past experience with barbwire.

Hoping Maggie's nail heals quickly.

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Thanks Texas Red....I think she's fine....feeling sorry for herself in general, but she'll live! Good idea on the IV bag....I however, am a sucker for anything that I can purchase. Hence Maggie having a sweater, a raincoat, a winter coat, and various harnesses and collars depending on where we are going....out out harnesses, daycare and play collars and harnesses, and then the ones for the beach. Sad....but gives me some fun.
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still in our bandages....it will be a week on Sunday. We are not healing as fast as we would like, Maggie is still a bit tender, and the quick is still very raw and exposed. No running! No daycare, no interacting with other dogs for play. And it's raining so we're all trapped in the house for a lot of the day. So, we're off on adventures in the car, go to places where they allow doggies so that she gets some stimulation, pet shops, daily visit to the vet, other peoples houses, training reinforcement. This morning when it stopped raining for 5 minutes, I threw some new, very exciting apparently, freeze dried pieces of raw beef liver and kidney out into the garden to get some nose work going for 15 minutes or so.

The only positive about all of this is that as she is not off lead, when we're out walking, we can control the jumping up on people as they stop to admire her boot, her coat, and her general gorgeousness.

Very tricky to keep a Vizsla entertained in rainy weather when her paw needs to be kept dry, and she can't be allowed to run. 🙄

Hoping that the vet takes off the dressing on Monday and we're good to go! She really misses daycare, and her pals. Sadly Friday is the day that they have the velcro dog AGM. There are at least another 3 in daycare today....and they all stick together in a gang. Here's a photo from a few weeks ago.
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The toenail took longer than expected to heal. But we finally removed the bandages last Wednesday. We had to do a course of anti biotics as it was a little oozy for a day or two. Unsurprising as it's been so damp here, but they finished yesterday and we are back to full on 150% vizsla energy. A few days without bandages made it heal so much faster. Back to jumping on people though.....if you don't keep on her. But another positive is that she is happy to let us put boots on for mucky/wet walks in the woods, much to the amusement of our neighbours. But we are expecting snow this winter here, and a harsh winter, so those boots might be useful in the end.
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