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post #21 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-23-2015, 07:33 AM
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Re: HELP PLEASE! Naughty 6 month old puppy!

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Sounds like your hands are full!! I second the comment to putting him on birds - redirect that energy. As for pulling, I've used the collar in the link below on my dogs and it works great. Something to try. It comes with extra links to make it larger as your dog gets larger.

http://www.amazon.com/Don-Sullivan-P...raining+collar

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Wow.That looks like a torture collar to me.Just use a halti no issues no stress no pain.

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post #22 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-23-2015, 10:03 AM
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Re: HELP PLEASE! Naughty 6 month old puppy!

I noticed a few things in your post that i just wanted to touch on briefly.

1. You mentioned the dog doesn't listen to you the first time and that it takes several subsequent offerings of the command for him to listen. - - - - Your job as the trainer is to enforce the command the first time you give it. If you allow the dog to listen on subsequent offerings you are working against yourself and merely training the dog that it doesn't need to listen the first time. When you train, before you offer the command, you make sure you can reinforce the command, then say the command just ONE time, and if the dog doesn't listen you follow through with your hands to make the dog comply.

2. You mentioned when your dog was pulling you were you stopped and "pulled" him back to you. With out seeing exactly what you are doing, it sounds like the execution of the training is off. My opinion anyway - i wouldn't pull him back to me. I would be popping (quick SHORT snaps of the leash/collar) until he starts coming back to you. Your objective is to show him that the loose leash is what you want so you need to give him an oppurtunity to give your the loose leash. MOST importantly don't forget to tell you dog when its doing right. We all to often are more than happy to tell the dog everything it is doing wrong, but seldom tell them when they are doing well.

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Re: HELP PLEASE! Naughty 6 month old puppy!

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Sounds like your hands are full!! I second the comment to putting him on birds - redirect that energy. As for pulling, I've used the collar in the link below on my dogs and it works great. Something to try. It comes with extra links to make it larger as your dog gets larger.

http://www.amazon.com/Don-Sullivan-P...raining+collar

Good luck!
Wow.That looks like a torture collar to me.Just use a halti no issues no stress no pain.

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Sounds like your hands are full!! I second the comment to putting him on birds - redirect that energy. As for pulling, I've used the collar in the link below on my dogs and it works great. Something to try. It comes with extra links to make it larger as your dog gets larger.

http://www.amazon.com/Don-Sullivan-P...raining+collar

Good luck!
Wow.That looks like a torture collar to me.Just use a halti no issues no stress no pain.

[img]41l7gRvcsnL by Robert James, on Flickr
Ha, definitely not. It's a really light plastic that has rounded edges (not pokey) and stops tightening at a certain point. A lot less harmful than a choke collar.
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post #24 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-24-2015, 08:49 AM
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Re: HELP PLEASE! Naughty 6 month old puppy!

Zo - a pinch collar when used correctly can V a training aid - I do not like choke collars !!!!!!!!!! - the sad part !!!!! most owners do not know that there is a right way & a wrong way to put them on so they release !!!!!! looking at the pup - the tag end should be in your left hand to form the letter P as you slip it on - 2 ways 2 put it on !!!!!! only 1 right way !!!!!!!!! on a trip 2 PetSmart looked at all the collars 4 fun - the vast majority of pinch & choke collars did not come with instructions on how 2 put them on correctly - SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: HELP PLEASE! Naughty 6 month old puppy!

We had similar issue when trying to walk our 4 month old Chloe. She was pulling so bad that it became stressful and not enjoyable to walk her. We're taking a "break" from walking and instead going to the local baseball field (which is totally enclosed by a fence). My wife and I stand at opposite ends of the outfield and call her. She runs back and forth like the wind! We always bring water.
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Hi, I'm not an expert by any means, but have a Vizsla myself. My thoughts are taking a him to an off-leash dog park for 1.5-2hrs a day. The impression I have with my V is that he needs it everyday to maintain an even temperament and obedience. We started off off-leash after getting the come here command down pat. I'd practice in my living room with my husband (each calling him and treating him). This progressed to practicing outside on leash, then off-leash at a park with a fence then no fence. I don't know what your level of experience is with training. But I've never met a V that is satisfied with walking on leash. The one's I've met in this age group are similar to high-energy toddler boys who only want to run around and play. If you tire him out, he'll settle enough and focus on your training, be less "zoomy" towards strangers. Even if I miss a day or two of taking him out, it's like his energy just stores up and then I'm at the park for 3+ hours or sending him to day care for a full day of play. Just my thoughts. I wouldn't say that he doesn't respect you per say, just that he can't focus and maybe consider training him in the evenings every day on the commands you want him to follow, try adding hand signals. I'm sure a trainer can also help. Goodluck!
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Zo - a pinch collar when used correctly can V a training aid - I do not like choke collars !!!!!!!!!! - the sad part !!!!! most owners do not know that there is a right way & a wrong way to put them on so they release !!!!!! looking at the pup - the tag end should be in your left hand to form the letter P as you slip it on - 2 ways 2 put it on !!!!!! only 1 right way !!!!!!!!! on a trip 2 PetSmart looked at all the collars 4 fun - the vast majority of pinch & choke collars did not come with instructions on how 2 put them on correctly - SAD !!!!!!!!!!!!
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btw. the latest Pointing Dog journal has an article about how to use the slip collar properly to teach heal walking. i tried that method with Miksa over the weekend and it worked immediately with him. today i was already walking him to the mailbox on a bungee handsfree running leash and one of our neighbors texted me afterwards that they cannot believe how he walks like a pro. and yes, i still use treats and kibble for that, but since he is not very food driven, it seem still more the method than the food itself.
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