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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-18-2012, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
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Not poop piles, poop pies!

OK, I can't seem to solve this on my own. Nitro is healthy and full of energy. Healthy coat and looks like a normal 6 month old Vizsla.

Little guy has mostly normal poop but it tends to be on the softer side. At least once a day he leaves a poop pie ... looks pretty much like a cow pie ... and it is soft and gooey and runny and never seems to harden. A real bugger to pick up.

I tried antibiotics. Minimal help. Have not changed food yet but ready to. Currently feeding Blue Buffalo puppy food. Have not gone to a bland diet. Thinking feeding pumpkin and yogurt and cottage cheese but doesn't make sense after researching same. Not interested in a RAW diet. Can't seem to find a good food for sensitive bowels for puppies.

Vet recommends going to a bland diet followed up by Eukanuba or Science Diet special food for sensitive pup. Not crazy about the food recommendation which means I question the bland diet as well Considering changing to Nature's Recipe or Orijen puppy food to see what happens.

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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

Ive known some pups to have a problem with Blue Buffalo. The same one your describing. I would slowly switch to a food that you think has good nutritional value.

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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

Our vet recommends Science Diet is well, but we did not consider this as an option.

I am not an expert, but I think the food with limited ingredients might help - look for only one meat (combination of different meats could be too rich for a young puppy).
The dogs with sensitive stomach will digest lamb better then any other meat.
Our 5 month old is on Merrick Puppy plate - we used to have the same "pies", now he gets 1/2 puppy food and 1/2 lamb and rice dog food - perfect poop!
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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

We've had the same issue with Pippa. She was off and on with Taste of the Wild (she would refuse to eat some days) and her stool ran the gamut of loose and normal depending on her level of activity. After the Taste of the Wild recall, we switched her to Blue Buffalo Freedom (we had 1 non-recalled bag and switched her within a week). Again, she has one solid stool in the morning and one softer one in the afternoon. I am thinking of switching again. I have heard Fromm's is a good food...but waiting to give Blue Buffalo Freedom a full 3 weeks. Also considering a raw diet, but am confused as to how much to feed, to be perfectly honest, and haven't found enough detailed information on how to make the switch.

Sorry I am no help. Just venting that I am going through the same thing here...

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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

I had the same problem with Ruby around that age. We put her on Science Diet prescription and it would firm up. That got pricey so I switched to Science Diet Sensitive Stomach for a few months. That worked as well but didn't want to keep her on it long term.

I tried Blue Buffalo limited ingredient and she is still doing well with no issues. I think the key is to get the dog stable for a bit then try what works best. I think Ruby just has a sensitive stomach.

It may take time to see what works for your dog.

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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

My puppy's poop is also soft!!

I noticed that her morning poops are usually much firmer, followed by soft stools the rest of the day.

My vet suggested keeping the same brand of food I'm using (Wellness Supermix puppy). He thinks the problem is not the food but either the lack of fiber, or the speed of eating or the excitement/activity levels during the day that make her poop too soon. Either one or all of them.

So I'm going to be trying to address each of these first. For fiber, teaspoon of canned pumpkin. For gulping the food, a sectioned bowl that makes her eat slower, almost picking pieces of kibble.


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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

Nitro is the definition of a "chow hound". I've only seen one other dog inhale food as fast as he does.

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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

This is a really common problem for whatever reason. I was recently talking to a animal nutritionist
who was telling me you should avoid puppy foods - that puppies don't need extra rich food, it is the owners that need the product as they think they must give their puppy something specific. A wolf in the wild doesn't get special puppy kill!!!!

I had my pup on Orijen puppy kibble and he had very liquid poos :. I spoke to the manufacturers of Orijen and their specialist said it was too rich for him and to try the other brand they make ACANA - I use the fish one Pacifica and added it in over 5 days. I also added raw diet to the kibble and bingo - his stools were normal in no time at all, he put on weight and hasn't looked back since. I have to say his coat is like silk which I am sure is due to the ACANA.

There is a lot of good advise on this thread I started on the subject - you might find interesting.

https://www.vizslaforums.com/index.ph....html#msg26906
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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

Lower the protein content. Think L I D kibble. At that age not much gets absorbed.

Other than that, a sprinkle of unflavored Metamucil and plain yogurt. I also fed him bread.

In short, I would lay off the high protein content kibble unless I am looking for liver problems.

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Alternatively, you may consider a little ground meat mixed with barley and cook for little Nitro

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"It is frequently claimed, based primarily on the fallacious logic of “evolutionary nutrition,” that dogs are incapable of digesting grains or that these make poor nutrient sources in dog foods. Extensive evidence from laboratory research and feeding trials illustrates this is false and that cooked grains are excellent energy sources and can also provide protein and other important nutrients to dogs. Grains are also often blamed for food allergies, but while some dogs may develop allergies to plant proteins, the evidence suggests that the vast majority of food sensitivities in dogs are to animal proteins."



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Re: Not poop piles, poop pies!

I agree with Datacan, most likely to much protein.
Second if he wolfs food down a sectioned bowl or just spreading his food out on a large cookie sheet will slow him down.
Last you can drop off a stool sample by the vets and have them check for gardia and coccidiosis.

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