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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-02-2011, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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Are visible ribs normal?

Hi all,

Otto is now 13 weeks. His ribs are visible all the time. My parents don't think i'm feeding him enough. I'm following the directions we got of the breeder - 2 handfuls dry food (Hill's science plan) 4x a day. I also add a banana or an apple every other day
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-02-2011, 08:17 PM
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Re: Are visible ribs normal?

Here is what three different veterinarians and the Michigan Humane Society have told me:

When you stand over your dog, you should be able to see a distinct waistline. When you look at your dog from the side, you should NOT be able to see his/her ribs. If your dog is making a turn while running and you can see ribs, that's okay... but not while just standing still. You should be able to feel the ribs, but not see them.

Your puppy is growing and that, in itself, requires extrra calories. Regardless of what your breeder told you, I think Otto could use some more food. Here's a good way to do the increase. Always measure with a measuring cup. Add a little more to each meal than what you're giving him now. Inspect him every single day using the above guidelines. Adjust the amount up or down, until you can NOT see the ribs, but you can feel them. Every dog is different, because of their various exercise routines and overall metabolism. Close observation is really the best way. Also, make sure he always has a fresh bowl of water available to drink. Always. Otto will thank you!

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Re: Are visible ribs normal?

It's pretty normal for their ribs to show, especially as puppies. Didn't redbirddog recently say that his muscle machine male shows some ribs? That dog is far from undernourished!
The amount you're feeding is fine, and never, never, let parents tell you how much to feed a dog! For some reason parents always think your dog is dying of starvation and figure they'll help out by fattening them up. lol


There are many superior brands of food out there for your pup though.
I have a true hate for the Hills brand, as all the vets up here carry it and sell it at a premium price, as a premium food.
It is filled with trash, so they must give vets a really good kickback to sell it for them...

Have a look at this site, and see the difference between the ingredients different brands use.
Vizslas are athletes and need to be fed as such. I vote for a 6 star food, but you'll have to see what's available to you.
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-02-2011, 08:55 PM
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Re: Are visible ribs normal?

http://www.peteducation.com/article....9+1660&aid=661


Pups can get worms but I am going to guess you have ruled that out. Just make sure the food is good food with little or no corn filler. Here is a link on what makes a priemum dog food and why.

http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/2010/...ve-vizsla.html

When we train Bailey for field trials he looks like I am starving him. But he weighs in at 62 pounds of almost pure muscle.

A thin Vizsla is like a long distance runner. Much better than a fat Vizsla!

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Re: Are visible ribs normal?

I really wasn't suggesting that you should "fatten up" your dog.

That first link posted by Rod ("How Do I Determine if My Dog is Overweight") is very good and very specific. Read the third paragraph carefully and you will see this sentence" "If you can see the ribs, the pet is too thin." I'm just sayin' ... Otto could use a little more food -- high-quality, of course. He's a growing boy.

p.s. Keep in mind that while Otto is still growing, that means all of his parts are still developing... heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, brain... everything. If pups don't get adequate nutrition, it can lead to developmental problems down the road. A fully grown adult dog that's a little "ribby" is probably not as dangerous to the overall health of the dog, but that is still considered too thin.

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Re: Are visible ribs normal?

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I really wasn't suggesting that you should "fatten up" your dog.
I was talking about my dad.
He's got a chihuahua that weighs in close to what Mischa does... (kidding)
Every time I'm over at his place I tell him "Dad, you're feeding him too much" his response : "but he's so happy!"

How can I argue with that logic???
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Ha-ha-ha! I know a lot of people just like your Dad, too! It's true that the fat dog "enjoys" the good fortune of having an indulgent owner! ("but he's so happy!")

However, we all know that overweight in pets and people is dangerous and can take years off what would have been a normal lifespan. Right now everything seems fine, but when the dog is 12 or 13 years old, and has become more precious with each passing year, the importance of a truly healthy weight becomes crystal clear... when you'd give anything for just one more month, one more week, one more day. So I'm not suggesting that anyone should overfeed their dog. Just repeating what I've learned. There is such a thing as too thin, as well as too fat.

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I know a lot of people just like your Dad, too! It's true that the fat dog "enjoys" the good fortune of having an indulgent owner! ("but he's so happy!")

http://redbirddog.blogspot.com/2011/...obese-too.html

I do a lot of walking and see many of the Continental sporting dogs (Vizsla is one) that are overweight. On the flip-side, when you get into field trial competition, almost all the dogs are thin. They train hard to build up the endurance for a one, two or three hour hunt test. A field trial dog would be too thin for most folks. I plan to show Bailey for the first time in a few weeks in Reno, Nevada. To get him ready for the show, I have to put more meat on his bones. Show judges only want to see the slightest outline of the first rib on a Vizsla, no hip bone showing and no spinebones, or so I have been told.

Got to mix up a batch of Satin Balls.

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Good luck with the show in Reno... should be fun and interesting, Rod. 8)

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post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-03-2011, 11:24 AM
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If you guys figure out how to fatten them up, let me know. I think I have tried everything short of hiring a cook and server to give him, whatever he wants, when he wants it. :
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