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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-16-2012, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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Thinking of a Vizsla as First Dog-Question about Breed and Breeders

Hi everyone we are looking to get a dog and went to the Chicago IKC show a couple weeks ago and we really liked the Vizsla. I have an 8th grade boy and 6th grade girl who want a dog and I have wanted a dog since I was a kid so we are seriously considering it. My wife would like a dog too but it would really by mine and my daughters.

The two breeds we are thinking of are the Vizsla and the Portuguese Water Dogs (yes I know they are rather different breeds but in reading about them and seeing some at the IKC in Chicago the similarities are greater than many would expect-high energy, family loving, intelligent, playful, strong willed). I have been reading a lot of books on dogs and training (I like those by Patricia McConnell, Ian Dunbar, and Brian Kilcommons) but have not found too much specifically on Vizsla. The www. vcaweb.org is OK for information suggestions/recommendations from experienced Vizsla owners about things to think about would be welcomed. Also any recommendations for breeders whose dogs have great temperament, are socialized by a family and if possible initiate early training behaviors would be very welcomed. Ideally we could find a breeder in the midwest since we are close to Chicago.

I realize that breeders cannot guarantee a temperament, but from what I have read, outside of the family and how they socialize and train the dog, it is the breeder which haves the greatest influence; beginning with how the breeder attempts to select for temperament and then how the breeder initiates socialization. As such if you have interacted with breeders to the extent that you feel knowledgable as to their practices and goals I would be very interested in knowing what breeders you recommend for Vizslas.

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Re: Thinking of a Vizsla as First Dog-Question about Breed and Breeders

Get ready for a bunch of "you need to reconsider" or " you need to do more research"

i've noticed that is the most common responses...they are not for everyone.

you need to be able to exercise them more than you can imagine (what i'm told,mine is mellow so far 13wks)

if you choose the V good luck i absolutely love my puppy and he was breed well and very social....no barking unless with a new dog but he doesn't know much about strange dogs yet.

google and look around for breeders, everyone will give you their opinions and whatnot but it's mostly up to you. People told me NOT to get my pup where i did and i feel he was taken care of 100%. He has no accidents in the house, he's so friendly and loves everyone so far. Noises don't bother him, cars, alarms whatever...he does get excited (loud) around other dogs.

...he was worth the wait as are all good things
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Re: Thinking of a Vizsla as First Dog-Question about Breed and Breeders

[list]I am no way experienced but what I know is they need a lot of exercise and attention. They are intelligent dogs and want to please you so you need to keep their minds occupied. If they are left to get bored they become destructive. I knew of one poor thing whose owner never walked it and it ended up chewing it's own tail off out of frustration

If you are an active outdoor family I am sure a v would be great for you! If you have a friend/ neighbour with a v it would be good to go walking with them/look after the dog for a couple of days so you get an idea of what it's like.

Sorry I live in UK so won't be much help with breeders! I think it's a good idea to meet the parents if possible"

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i researched the V's for about 4yrs....then when WE were ready we decided to get one. Lucky enough the breeder i was interested in just happened to have a litter expecting. i was 3rd for a male, they had 9 pups 3 males....so i gots one!!!!

this is NOT the dog to get because they look good or fun!
this is NOT the dog to get just to get a dog.

again hope it all works out for you and again i absolutely love my little man......

...he was worth the wait as are all good things
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They are not just a pet, they are like having another kid. They will require the same time, attention and care, but you will reap the same rewards. You give them attention, training, mental & physical exercise and they will reward you with love, joy and lots of kisses/snuggles.
They are high maintenance, and require interactive exercise. They will be an integral part of your family, and will want (need) to be a part of everything in your life.
Do you have 2 hours a day to devote to exercising the dog?
Are you happy to spend your weekends hiking?
Are you prepared to share your sofa, lap, bed with the dog (no really, no matter what you say, that dog will be on your lap within weeks if not hours)

As a first dog, this will be a lot of work. I grew up with a GSP and my husband with ridgebacks, so we knew what we were getting into, but its still overtaken our lives. We dont WANT to go out without him. We havnt seen a movie in the theater since we got him, we eat takeout in and rarely go out for dinner anymore. Our weekends revolve around where were going for our weekend adventure with the dog. He is a member of our family, I love him more than I ever thought it possible to love a dog, and be brings me so much joy. He also licked a drink of my cider last night, tried to scratch the electrical outlet out of the wall, and stole one of my shoes in an effort to get me to chase him around the house. Wouldnt change it for the world!

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Re: Thinking of a Vizsla as First Dog-Question about Breed and Breeders

It sounds like your family is the right "age" for a Vizsla. The older kids would help a lot - mine sure do!

During my adult/married life, we've had a mutt, a black lab, currently an old wire haired dachshund and now a 10 month old female vizsla.

She is about 25% more work than the other puppy breeds we've had but she is sooooooo worth it. She is smart, lovable, cuddly, trainable and super friendly. She's very easy going and just wants to run or play. Her energy is very low as long as she gets her play time in.

If you get a vizsla, make sure you have someone who can care for it during the day - just like you would with any other dog breed. You wouldn't want it sitting home in a crate all day or in your yard (some can jump 6 foot fences). Doggie day care would be an option if all of you work.

Make sure you are committed to running the dog daily - preferably off leash. We go to a dog park during the week and out to some open farm/wooded property we have on weekends.

There are quite a few other discussions on here from people considering a Vizsla - take some time and read through them.

Good luck, you'll love your baby! But get ready to answer a million questions like "what kind of dog is that?" "aren't weimeraners supposed to be gray?" "doesn't your dog ever run out of energy?" (common dog park question and yes she does - once she leaves the dog park - that's why were are there! duh!) I just smile & answer them.
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..I knew of one poor thing whose owner never walked it and it ended up chewing it's own tail off out of frustration ...
what an awful story! that is going to stay with me! :'(
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between potty breaks, walks, mental and physical training and the yard...he gets plenty of exercise.
We let him sleep in the bed with us but he is being crate trained to be in there during the work day *(until he proves he can live on his own unsupervised)*(i know i know....)*

All of our dogs in the past were crated during the day then one day they were all just "good" enough to be on their own. That's they day i'm waiting for.

mine little guy *(knock on wood)* doesn't chew up anything but our arms *(playin')* or yard stuff...*(sticks, stones, ......)*

hasn't even looked twice at the cords for the lamp and whatnot.

...he was worth the wait as are all good things
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Do you have 2 hours a day to devote to exercising the dog?
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I agree with the spirit of Kristen's question. I heard this number, 2 hours per day, when I began to consider a V for my family. I have found that Phobe 'needs' a good 45 minutes off leash running and playing each day. She gets that. I also take her out for another 45mins - 1.5 hours 3 or 4 times per week. She doesn't 'need' all of that exercise but I find that she is a very easy dog to live with when that amount is provided.

I love being the forest and exploring new trails so Phoebe and I do a lot of that, it isn't something I have to do, it is something that I enjoy doing and Phoebe gets all the benefit of it.

The purpose of my post is to say that 2 hours of off-leash exercise each day isn't 'needed' in my opinion but it's at least an hour each day with lots of other opportunity for other activities (Phoebe and I do training in the house and in the yard for obedience, air scenting, tracking, tricks, etc.

My 2 cents,
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The two breeds we are thinking of are the Vizsla and the Portuguese Water Dogs (yes I know they are rather different breeds but in reading about them and seeing some at the IKC in Chicago the similarities are greater than many would expect-high energy, family loving, intelligent, playful, strong willed).
They may be similar in temperament, but the grooming requirements are completely different! Keep in mind, Vizslas only need to be bathed every few months. Our Riley carefully grooms herself (licks and nibbles) every morning and evening. If this is something that would bother you, go with the PWD.

Also, I've never EVER met another breed of dog that has more endurance than a Vizsla. She ran/played very hard at the park yesterday evening with a full-grown doberman for 45 minutes... when we got home, she spent at least another 30 minutes awake and chewing on a rawhide bone. I'm sure we could have been at the park for at least 1.5 hours before she was actually "tired".

Last note of advice: I like to refer to Riley as our "ADHD" dog. Vizslas are constantly alert, very easily distracted, and have to be trained in short 10-15 minute sessions or you will lose their attention. I think this comes with the fact that Vizslas are so smart... their minds are constantly working and they get bored very easily.

Check out Riley & Cooper's blog: http://ltlor.blogspot.com/

Riley - Born September 5th, 2011
Cooper - Born March 10th, 2012

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