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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-13-2016, 12:03 PM Thread Starter
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Collar or Harness

Hey there,

I already found quite a lot of useful information. Great forum!

We are getting our little Vizsla pup (10 weeks) next month and I have a few questions. One is around the right gear for the Vizsla. I found different information online so thought I'd check here with you.

Would you recommend walking him with a collar or a harness? Or start with a collar and change to a harness later on? Or the other way round? Or is it down to personal preference?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-13-2016, 01:34 PM
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Re: Collar or Harness

I started out my pup with a collar and changed over to a harness around 4 or 5 months because she pulled a lot on walks. She is a lot better at walking now, whether I'm using the collar or the harness, but the harness prevented her from nearly choking herself pulling when she was younger and made our walks a lot more enjoyable for both of us, I think. I felt so horrible watching her strain at the leash, and the harness made it impossible for her to pull. Now those lessons have translated and she walks fairly well without the harness, too.

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Re: Collar or Harness

I prefer a British slip or martingale collar/lead combo, like the ones made by Mendota, and found it easy (though not quick) to train my dog to heel with one. Initially I was concerned they would choke my dog, but found that it was really easy to control the amount of pressure and that she responded much better (pulled less) than with a regular leash clipped to her collar.

I've never tried the no-pulling style harnesses. My thought was that if I ever wanted her to pull with a harness designed for that, such as when biking, I wouldn't want her to think all harnesses were for not pulling.

I would say it's absolutely personal preference.
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Re: Collar or Harness

We were first collar then "added" a harness.
I kept walking him with his collar and my wife and kids used the harness.
I think it was good teaching him with both, I didn't want him thinking he only had to walk nice if he had a harness on.
He has been e-collar conditioned for a while but I never used it on walks.
I have recently added his e-collar on walks.
I can walk him now off leash and use only tone or voice to correct him.
I don't think it matters how you do it or what you use, in the end you are teaching him how to walk with you.
Make sure you take some pictures and some video's too.

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Re: Collar or Harness

I've never used a harness for walking since I have trained my previous dogs, and now Pecan to pull in a harness.

I primarily use a standard O or D ring collar and as einspanner noted, the Mendota lead.

One thing to keep in mind with attempting to train a puppy to walk with a specific pace (that specific pace being your walking speed) is that when they are smaller, they have to generate a lot more pace with their short legs to keep up with your regular stride and then adjust their pace to a lower one as they grow into their adult form. So through their growing process, it takes a lot of adjustments to continually get them to slow their pace, let alone focus on you instead of their surroundings.

This was told to me 2 dogs ago and made a huge difference while walk training and that's to maintain your stride and pace at the most consistent rate possible as we have much longer legs. So small changes in our pace and stride length are much bigger changes for them to attempt to match with their pace and stride length. So if your stride/pace is consistent, it is much easier for them to understand what you are asking: to match your pace, and to keep their focus.
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I use a collar and clip on lead (leash) whilst they're young pups then move onto a slip lead at about 4 month old. There is a right and wrong way to use a slip lead depending on which side of you your dog walks, ie it should form a "p" shape if dogs on your right hand side and a "q" if on your left hand side. If your pup persists on pulling still another good aid is the Higgins Method with a slip lead, you make a figure of 8 noose and slip one of the loops over the muzzle, here's a short vid I made some years ago.
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Re: Collar or Harness

Well, in prep for Amos, I bought a front clip no-pull harness because I thought all vizsla puppies pulled. I read horror stories of them being like wild bucking Broncos on the leash. It did not work well at first because Amos had a fear of leaving the property. I literally drug and coaxed that dog down the road for six weeks or so till he grew out of it. Once he got confident about walking, that's when the pulling began and I was really glad I had it. Whenever they charge forward, the front clip catches when they hit the end of the leash and forces them to turn back towards you which is no fun. They want to see out so eventually they start leaving slack in the leash. It has worked for us as far as the pulling but he still doesn't heel quite as well as I'd like. Still working on that. We use the halti brand one.
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Well, in prep for Amos, I bought a front clip no-pull harness because I thought all vizsla puppies pulled. I read horror stories of them being like wild bucking Broncos on the leash. It did not work well at first because Amos had a fear of leaving the property. I literally drug and coaxed that dog down the road for six weeks or so till he grew out of it. Once he got confident about walking, that's when the pulling began and I was really glad I had it. Whenever they charge forward, the front clip catches when they hit the end of the leash and forces them to turn back towards you which is no fun. They want to see out so eventually they start leaving slack in the leash. It has worked for us as far as the pulling but he still doesn't heel quite as well as I'd like. Still working on that. We use the halti brand one.
Here I was thinking my V was the only one scared of walks At 7mths she loves them now but if there are sprinklers going or something new I have to really coax her and show her that it is ok and not scary. I'll have to look into the harness you have -- I'm not a huge fan of the one I have. It doesn't fit quite right and she is able to slip out of it if she backs up far enough. Fortunately, her recall is about 80-90% right now and she only does it when she is scared of something i.e. sprinklers.
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We started off with a collar and switched to a TRUE LOVE harness at 4 months. It allows for a back clip or a front clip. We did a lot of research and found this to be the best fit for our 8 month old male Vizsla... "Louie"
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Well, in prep for Amos, I bought a front clip no-pull harness because I thought all vizsla puppies pulled. I read horror stories of them being like wild bucking Broncos on the leash. It did not work well at first because Amos had a fear of leaving the property. I literally drug and coaxed that dog down the road for six weeks or so till he grew out of it. Once he got confident about walking, that's when the pulling began and I was really glad I had it. Whenever they charge forward, the front clip catches when they hit the end of the leash and forces them to turn back towards you which is no fun. They want to see out so eventually they start leaving slack in the leash. It has worked for us as far as the pulling but he still doesn't heel quite as well as I'd like. Still working on that. We use the halti brand one.
Thanks again for recommending the Halti harness Ours came in the mail yesterday and we used it today for our first walk and no pulling. She even walked at my 2yo's pace when he wanted to get out of the bike trailer and walk and "help push". I'm honestly amazed Granted that was only day one but I'm impressed so far.
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