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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 05-03-2017, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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Snake Avoidance

There has been an alarming increase in rattlesnake sightings and bites in Northern California...typically these don't start till July/August. Likely some relation to all the rain we had and the effect on their food supplies. I was wondering:
*How exposed are you to rattlesnakes where you wander off leash?
*Have you been through a snake avoidance class or techniques?
*Has your dog been bitten and how long do you have to get to a vet?
*etc.

Just throwing it out there for some help before we become a statistic
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 05-04-2017, 11:24 AM
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Mine have been through snake avoidance training, and also get a yearly Rattle snake vaccine.
While nothing is a 100%, I feel like its best to be proactive.
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Please check with your vet that they actually stock the anti-venom...you may be surprised with what you learn...we were. We live in rural central Florida which is prime Eastern Diamondback habitat...here it's only a matter of "when" we will have encounters. This is our primary "worry" about protecting our curious red hunters! Our female has proudly delivered two Coral Snakes to us, while miraculously avoiding a bite!
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Leading veterinary schools (like Davis) don't recommend the so-called rattlesnake "vaccine" as there is no evidence to suggest it works.

Using it and then taking extra risks based on the false assumption that it is offering any protection seems unwise to me.

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Yes, I know not everyone is on board the snake vaccine.
And I don't put my dogs in places, just because I use it, and have them go through snake avoidance.
The fact is I live in Texas, and we have snakes. I can be proactive as possible. Or do nothing, and hope for the best.
I would rather be proactive.
I know people who have lost dogs to rattlesnake bites. Those same people now use the vaccine, and had a dogs recover after a rattlesnake bite. While it's possible the vaccinated dog, may have recovered without the vaccine. It still leads me to keep my dogs vaccinations up to date.
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Our Vizsla Sadie hates snakes and will hide in the house for a full day if she sees a snake of any kind on one of our walks. We had a Beagle mix we put through snake avoidance training. The rattlesnakes were held under white buckets until released as part of the training. She was very diligent about avoiding white buckets after that.
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Around here they are so few and far between I don't know anyone who has encountered one. Garter snakes, however, were Miko's standard prey, and treat as a puppy last fall. Because of this I am kind of worried about when we take him to the mountains of Utah this summer.

This leads me to my next question. What do you do in case of a bite?

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Around here they are so few and far between I don't know anyone who has encountered one. Garter snakes, however, were Miko's standard prey, and treat as a puppy last fall. Because of this I am kind of worried about when we take him to the mountains of Utah this summer.

This leads me to my next question. What do you do in case of a bite?

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Whereabouts in Utah? Southern Utah you'll have to worry about it but if you're up North only a couple of other places (.i.e. Jordanelle Reservoir -- it's a protected area for them there and is the only place I've regularly seen them in abundance).
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Yes, I know not everyone is on board the snake vaccine.
And I don't put my dogs in places, just because I use it, and have them go through snake avoidance.
The fact is I live in Texas, and we have snakes. I can be proactive as possible. Or do nothing, and hope for the best.
I would rather be proactive.
I know people who have lost dogs to rattlesnake bites. Those same people now use the vaccine, and had a dogs recover after a rattlesnake bite. While it's possible the vaccinated dog, may have recovered without the vaccine. It still leads me to keep my dogs vaccinations up to date.
No Veterinary Schools are "onboard" with this so-called "vaccine" because there is no evidence that it works (and it involves shooting a dog with a toxin).

I don't see how using something that doesn't work is "pro-active." It is just flushing money down a drain (while potentially harming one's dog in the process).

Most dogs given proper veterinary care after a rattlesnake bite recover. Getting this "shot" does not improve the odds, nor does it change the treatment.

The manufacturer is marketing something that simply doesn't work, and whose claims are absolutely unsubstantiated.

Snake-oil (not snake "vaccine").

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